NS is the process through which evolution acts. The process itself is governed by things like biological fitness. Fitness is determined by the genotype and phenotype of an individual to produce viable offspring. NS requires a selection pressure to “do its job”.
I think what you are having an issue with (based on reading other posts) is that it is impossible for us to know which trait will be beneficial to a given species in the wild before it happens. In order to test something like this we would have to have a static environment which is hard to come by. However some have managed it. Have you ever heard of the guppy experiment? That experiment shows how selection pressure causes natural selection for a certain trait and thus can alter the gene pool (and cause micro-evolution). In this environment you can then hypothesize about what traits will enhance ones fitness given the selection pressure. Thus you have tested NS.
Edit: I wanted to add that NS is not random like most people think it is. The random portion about NS is finding out which individuals, if any, have the "right" combo of genes for a given selection pressure. Thus if a selection pressure is great enough or radical enough some species will not have the "right" genes and go extinct. NS is very specific in selecting the animals in a species with certain traits.
I think what you are having an issue with (based on reading other posts) is that it is impossible for us to know which trait will be beneficial to a given species in the wild before it happens. In order to test something like this we would have to have a static environment which is hard to come by. However some have managed it. Have you ever heard of the guppy experiment? That experiment shows how selection pressure causes natural selection for a certain trait and thus can alter the gene pool (and cause micro-evolution). In this environment you can then hypothesize about what traits will enhance ones fitness given the selection pressure. Thus you have tested NS.
Edit: I wanted to add that NS is not random like most people think it is. The random portion about NS is finding out which individuals, if any, have the "right" combo of genes for a given selection pressure. Thus if a selection pressure is great enough or radical enough some species will not have the "right" genes and go extinct. NS is very specific in selecting the animals in a species with certain traits.
This message last edited by Night Walker on 07/08/2011 at 03:08:17 AM
Natural selection
- 06/08/2011 03:51:26 PM
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selection for suitability
- 06/08/2011 04:18:51 PM
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Thanks for your responce
- 06/08/2011 04:41:20 PM
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I can't speak for LadyLorraine and won't try, but here's how I see it:
- 06/08/2011 06:49:49 PM
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Just a question
- 06/08/2011 07:18:09 PM
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Yes it can
- 06/08/2011 07:41:59 PM
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But how?
- 06/08/2011 07:52:10 PM
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Re: Just a question
- 06/08/2011 07:49:21 PM
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I'm not sure I understand you
- 06/08/2011 08:20:44 PM
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All tautologies are truisms, but not all truisms are tautologies.
- 06/08/2011 09:38:12 PM
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Then it is still a tautology
- 06/08/2011 09:45:33 PM
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You can know it's beneifical to a particular individual, but it's harder to say for populations.
- 06/08/2011 10:18:16 PM
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Maybe...
- 07/08/2011 01:55:54 PM
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I'm more inclined toward his logic, but possibly toward your conclusions.
- 09/08/2011 12:45:46 AM
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we can't really know ahead of time what makes a specific trait benefical in that environment
- 09/08/2011 06:16:02 PM
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As I understand it
- 06/08/2011 06:04:44 PM
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Better...
- 06/08/2011 06:36:38 PM
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Did you perhaps mean "beneficial in the environment" rather than "beneficial to the environment"?
- 06/08/2011 06:34:44 PM
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yes. I did not really phrase that very clearly. *NM*
- 09/08/2011 06:14:11 PM
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No biggy; from what Bram said, I underestimated how well you were understood anyway.
- 09/08/2011 06:45:16 PM
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Hmmm... there's some truth to that
- 06/08/2011 06:36:35 PM
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The complexity of the problem makes it all but impossible to falsify...
- 06/08/2011 08:26:06 PM
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The questions go deeper
- 06/08/2011 08:38:31 PM
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Re: The questions go deeper
- 06/08/2011 09:10:32 PM
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I think I know why you don't understand my question.
- 06/08/2011 09:38:41 PM
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How many equation's has Moraine screwed up?
*NM*
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*NM*
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100% I think Moriaine is a very beneficial trait that contributes a lot to the RAFO pool
*NM*
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*NM*
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Re: Natural selection
- 07/08/2011 03:00:30 AM
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Thanks a lot
- 07/08/2011 01:38:39 PM
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2 things
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Re: 2 things
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Re: 2 things
- 07/08/2011 05:48:26 PM
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My best guess
- 07/08/2011 06:00:28 PM
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Re: My best guess
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Re: My best guess
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