we can't really know ahead of time what makes a specific trait benefical in that environment
LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 09/08/2011 06:16:02 PM
That's why I didn't give any examples. It's easy to ID these traits in hindsight, but I think it'd be presumptuous of me to make them in advance.
I hope I didn't muddy the waters too much by my use of "to" instead of "in". That was an error on my part.
if it doesn't make sense after amending that error in my statements, here's kind of what I mean:
X trait prevails under a selection pressure. For whatever reason, X trait allows for a greater survival of the species, through whatever means, under that selection pressure it's important to remember that that same trait may not be beneficial/selected for under another pressure. An example here might be sickle cell anemia. In an environment with a lot of malaria, sickle cell anemia decreases infection, outweighing the costs of the actual disorder. Outside of the environment, it's just a blood disorder and no longer beneficial. Thus, it is unsurprising that sickle cell anemia is only notably prevalent in regions where there is a great deal of malaria (or inhabited by people who come from such regions), and elsewhere, it is rare.
I am trying not to give specific examples, because I feel like I can't pick good ones to illustrate my point sufficiently. I'm not sure the latter one does either.
Does that make what I was trying to say more clear?
I hope I didn't muddy the waters too much by my use of "to" instead of "in". That was an error on my part.
if it doesn't make sense after amending that error in my statements, here's kind of what I mean:
X trait prevails under a selection pressure. For whatever reason, X trait allows for a greater survival of the species, through whatever means, under that selection pressure it's important to remember that that same trait may not be beneficial/selected for under another pressure. An example here might be sickle cell anemia. In an environment with a lot of malaria, sickle cell anemia decreases infection, outweighing the costs of the actual disorder. Outside of the environment, it's just a blood disorder and no longer beneficial. Thus, it is unsurprising that sickle cell anemia is only notably prevalent in regions where there is a great deal of malaria (or inhabited by people who come from such regions), and elsewhere, it is rare.
I am trying not to give specific examples, because I feel like I can't pick good ones to illustrate my point sufficiently. I'm not sure the latter one does either.
Does that make what I was trying to say more clear?
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This message last edited by LadyLorraine on 09/08/2011 at 06:24:10 PM
Natural selection
- 06/08/2011 03:51:26 PM
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selection for suitability
- 06/08/2011 04:18:51 PM
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Thanks for your responce
- 06/08/2011 04:41:20 PM
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- 06/08/2011 04:41:20 PM
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I can't speak for LadyLorraine and won't try, but here's how I see it:
- 06/08/2011 06:49:49 PM
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Just a question
- 06/08/2011 07:18:09 PM
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Yes it can
- 06/08/2011 07:41:59 PM
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But how?
- 06/08/2011 07:52:10 PM
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Re: Just a question
- 06/08/2011 07:49:21 PM
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I'm not sure I understand you
- 06/08/2011 08:20:44 PM
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All tautologies are truisms, but not all truisms are tautologies.
- 06/08/2011 09:38:12 PM
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Then it is still a tautology
- 06/08/2011 09:45:33 PM
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You can know it's beneifical to a particular individual, but it's harder to say for populations.
- 06/08/2011 10:18:16 PM
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Maybe...
- 07/08/2011 01:55:54 PM
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I'm more inclined toward his logic, but possibly toward your conclusions.
- 09/08/2011 12:45:46 AM
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we can't really know ahead of time what makes a specific trait benefical in that environment
- 09/08/2011 06:16:02 PM
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As I understand it
- 06/08/2011 06:04:44 PM
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Better...
- 06/08/2011 06:36:38 PM
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Did you perhaps mean "beneficial in the environment" rather than "beneficial to the environment"?
- 06/08/2011 06:34:44 PM
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yes. I did not really phrase that very clearly. *NM*
- 09/08/2011 06:14:11 PM
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No biggy; from what Bram said, I underestimated how well you were understood anyway.
- 09/08/2011 06:45:16 PM
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Hmmm... there's some truth to that
- 06/08/2011 06:36:35 PM
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The complexity of the problem makes it all but impossible to falsify...
- 06/08/2011 08:26:06 PM
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The questions go deeper
- 06/08/2011 08:38:31 PM
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Re: The questions go deeper
- 06/08/2011 09:10:32 PM
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I think I know why you don't understand my question.
- 06/08/2011 09:38:41 PM
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How many equation's has Moraine screwed up?
*NM*
- 06/08/2011 09:45:36 PM
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*NM*
- 06/08/2011 09:45:36 PM
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100% I think Moriaine is a very beneficial trait that contributes a lot to the RAFO pool
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- 06/08/2011 09:46:54 PM
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*NM*
- 06/08/2011 09:46:54 PM
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Re: Natural selection
- 07/08/2011 03:00:30 AM
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Thanks a lot
- 07/08/2011 01:38:39 PM
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2 things
- 07/08/2011 04:00:35 PM
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Re: 2 things
- 07/08/2011 04:33:00 PM
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Re: 2 things
- 07/08/2011 05:48:26 PM
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My best guess
- 07/08/2011 06:00:28 PM
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Re: My best guess
- 07/08/2011 06:37:58 PM
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Re: My best guess
- 07/08/2011 06:47:26 PM
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