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One of your lines struck me. Nate Send a noteboard - 25/08/2011 10:12:32 PM
Maybe if they had more intelligence and less ideology they would be held in higher regard.


As an outside, non-American observer, I admit that I feel this is absolutely true of the entire US political system in general, not just the left or the right.

In my ideal world, the widening gulf between the political/ideological poles in the United States would drive more and more voters not to either side, but to the moderate centre, as more and more voters would feel estranged from the rhetoric and the bickering and the posturing. That's what happened to me, in a way. As a younger voter (ten years ago) I leaned quite definitely to the left. As I grew older and moved to a conservative area of my country, I learned advantages to those ideas as well. When the two sides argue it only serves to make me more moderate, because I can see good ideas in both ideals.

I'm not sure if hoping for that in the US is a waste of dreaming or not. On the one hand, there are a lot of people yelling at each other. On the other hand, the idealogues always shout louder than any of the moderates, no matter how many moderates there are, especially when the cameras are rolling and their fan bases are listening.
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A fine example of the fuzzy logic of the left - 25/08/2011 06:30:36 PM 1163 Views
Personally I still favor demographic blind subsidies as the best route to meritocracy. - 25/08/2011 08:18:20 PM 755 Views
it works for gender as well - 25/08/2011 09:02:58 PM 761 Views
Sure; insert your demographic here. - 26/08/2011 12:51:48 AM 807 Views
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What's your point? - 26/08/2011 12:54:41 AM 637 Views
There are colleges that don't allow homosexuals - or men, or women for that matter. - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 751 Views
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Ummm, did you read the article? - 25/08/2011 08:40:46 PM 820 Views
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it is a scholarship program not a admissions program - 25/08/2011 09:12:47 PM 766 Views
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Fair Enough - 25/08/2011 09:41:25 PM 720 Views
their stated motive was to increase diversity - 25/08/2011 10:09:17 PM 831 Views
One of your lines struck me. - 25/08/2011 10:12:32 PM 826 Views
that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 651 Views
That's an interesting point... - 25/08/2011 10:37:37 PM 746 Views
Re: that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result - 25/08/2011 10:55:29 PM 776 Views
It's also worth noting ... - 25/08/2011 11:00:35 PM 649 Views
Wow what a strawman - 25/08/2011 10:23:45 PM 840 Views
yes to bad none of that address the point I was making which would make your argument a strawman - 25/08/2011 10:40:01 PM 636 Views
No I do not believe they are needed, nor do I believe they should be desired - 25/08/2011 10:47:51 PM 805 Views
so you don't disagree with me or you do? - 25/08/2011 11:47:05 PM 771 Views
Ridiculous. Everyone knows conservatives are incapable of creativity. - 25/08/2011 11:12:10 PM 635 Views
are they going to make students prove they are GLBT? - 25/08/2011 11:36:58 PM 687 Views
I think it's less a failing of the "left"... - 26/08/2011 03:25:42 AM 763 Views
I agree there is a lot of fuzzy logic on the right as well - 26/08/2011 02:41:03 PM 698 Views
*nod* I don't deny that it's a problem - 26/08/2011 04:26:56 PM 808 Views
a question for you... - 26/08/2011 08:08:10 PM 913 Views

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