Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind.
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM
I am also appalled by prematurely foreclosing the opportunity for repentance and salvation that I consider so priceless; I recognize that many people do not find that compelling, but would not want to answer for it personally. I hope GA got the right man, but God only knows; anyone else is only guessing.
As Johnson said, "...when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully..." The certainty of imminent death would then be a far better incentive for the condemned to get his act together and get himself right with God, and make his apologies. When there is any hope of freedom or putting off death, most will seize on that slim chance, rather than taking measures to prepare for the certainty of death. Once of the greatest graces a man can be granted is to know the time and date of his particular judgement years in advance. Better to have all the spiritual solace and opportunities for meditation and prayer afforded by the time spent on death row than the hubbub and violence of normal life in a prison for murderers.
And on the practical side, since we're getting into non-legal/justice grounds, when there is no death penalty, and the ultimate penalty is never getting out of prison, what does a convict risk by repeated and violent escape attempts? What penalty can then deter a man who cannot legally be released, from improvising weapons and cutting a bloody path to freedom? Even if he fails, society can do nothing more to him beyond lock him up to try again and again. And finally, if a man cannot be deterred by the threat of death, only death can stop him. Those who argue that the death penalty does not deter criminals thus provide the ultimate practical argument for putting criminals to death.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence...
- 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM
1608 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right?
- 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM
956 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say.
- 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM
1021 Views
But they get all the media attention
- 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM
895 Views
Cameron Todd Willingham is white, and his story is a national one since Perry is running for Pres
- 23/09/2011 03:41:52 PM
766 Views
those numbers are less schocking when you consider that blacks commet a lot more murders *NM*
- 22/09/2011 05:43:51 PM
389 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument.
- 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM
931 Views
You're kidding, right?
- 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM
910 Views
Re: You're kidding, right?
- 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM
915 Views
Juror bias. *NM*
- 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM
359 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM*
- 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM
367 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South.
- 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM
861 Views
Of course I'm interested
- 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM
797 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize.
- 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM
772 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP.
- 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM
841 Views
Huh.
- 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM
960 Views
That jumped out at me too.
- 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM
897 Views
What really confuses me
- 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM
835 Views
That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed.
- 22/09/2011 05:05:40 PM
949 Views
Re: That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed.
- 22/09/2011 05:21:59 PM
978 Views
If the original trial is shown to be flawed that's supposed to require a new trial.
- 22/09/2011 08:25:51 PM
861 Views
Well...
- 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM
997 Views
So if I understand you correctly...
- 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM
939 Views
Yes, that is correct. And proving witness coercion is likely to be difficult if not impossible. *NM*
- 22/09/2011 05:30:37 PM
333 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky
- 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM
898 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was
- 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM
921 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question.....
- 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM
820 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate.
- 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM
901 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer?
- 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM
954 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens.
- 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM
831 Views
Jigga what?
*NM*
- 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM
470 Views
*NM*
- 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM
470 Views
"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..."
- 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM
821 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction.
- 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM
800 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind.
- 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM
864 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal.
- 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM
814 Views
Bullshit
- 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM
1025 Views
Where do YOU get the idea that imperfect contrition is good enough?
- 25/09/2011 02:29:18 PM
1352 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist.
- 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM
831 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement
- 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM
827 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM*
- 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM
341 Views
Not just Roman Catholics, y'know, everyone who thinks God was not BSing about judgement.
- 25/09/2011 09:47:12 PM
884 Views
lol hellfire and brimstone *NM*
- 26/09/2011 12:12:28 AM
336 Views
I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement.
- 26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM
1036 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case.
- 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM
941 Views
.
- 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM
864 Views
A list of anecdotal wrongs does not prove anything. If convictions can be wrong, so can exonerations *NM*
- 25/09/2011 04:03:26 AM
343 Views
sorry if i don't have time to link to every
thing i've read on the subject
- 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM
1016 Views
thing i've read on the subject
- 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM
1016 Views
Well I would think you would have picked an article that offers some iota of proof of his innocence.
- 25/09/2011 04:14:45 AM
917 Views
Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence.
- 23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM
842 Views
Nor would I, but I've heard that lawyers say, "an eye witness is the worst witness you can have."
- 25/09/2011 03:23:53 PM
832 Views

*NM*