Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind.
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM
I am also appalled by prematurely foreclosing the opportunity for repentance and salvation that I consider so priceless; I recognize that many people do not find that compelling, but would not want to answer for it personally. I hope GA got the right man, but God only knows; anyone else is only guessing.
As Johnson said, "...when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully..." The certainty of imminent death would then be a far better incentive for the condemned to get his act together and get himself right with God, and make his apologies. When there is any hope of freedom or putting off death, most will seize on that slim chance, rather than taking measures to prepare for the certainty of death. Once of the greatest graces a man can be granted is to know the time and date of his particular judgement years in advance. Better to have all the spiritual solace and opportunities for meditation and prayer afforded by the time spent on death row than the hubbub and violence of normal life in a prison for murderers.
And on the practical side, since we're getting into non-legal/justice grounds, when there is no death penalty, and the ultimate penalty is never getting out of prison, what does a convict risk by repeated and violent escape attempts? What penalty can then deter a man who cannot legally be released, from improvising weapons and cutting a bloody path to freedom? Even if he fails, society can do nothing more to him beyond lock him up to try again and again. And finally, if a man cannot be deterred by the threat of death, only death can stop him. Those who argue that the death penalty does not deter criminals thus provide the ultimate practical argument for putting criminals to death.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
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“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence...
22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM
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And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right?
22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM
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Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say.
22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM
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But they get all the media attention
22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM
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Cameron Todd Willingham is white, and his story is a national one since Perry is running for Pres
23/09/2011 03:41:52 PM
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those numbers are less schocking when you consider that blacks commet a lot more murders *NM*
22/09/2011 05:43:51 PM
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And this is a typically illogical argument.
22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM
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You're kidding, right?
23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM
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Re: You're kidding, right?
23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM
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Juror bias. *NM*
23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM
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Your evidence for that? *NM*
23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM
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Twenty-one years of life in the American South.
24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM
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Of course I'm interested
24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM
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From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize.
24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM
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While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP.
23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM
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Huh.
22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM
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That jumped out at me too.
22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM
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What really confuses me
22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM
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That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed.
22/09/2011 05:05:40 PM
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Re: That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed.
22/09/2011 05:21:59 PM
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If the original trial is shown to be flawed that's supposed to require a new trial.
22/09/2011 08:25:51 PM
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Well...
22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM
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So if I understand you correctly...
22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM
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Yes, that is correct. And proving witness coercion is likely to be difficult if not impossible. *NM*
22/09/2011 05:30:37 PM
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it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky
22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM
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If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was
22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM
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I completely support the Death Penalty without question.....
22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM
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Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate.
22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM
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Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer?
23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM
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Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens.
23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM
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Jigga what?
*NM*
23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM
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"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..."
23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM
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Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction.
22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM
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Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind.
22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM
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That motive is seflish and thus fatal.
23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM
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Bullshit
25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM
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Where do YOU get the idea that imperfect contrition is good enough?
25/09/2011 02:29:18 PM
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Thank God you're not an evangelist.
23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM
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And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement
25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM
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lol roman catholicism *NM*
25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM
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Not just Roman Catholics, y'know, everyone who thinks God was not BSing about judgement.
25/09/2011 09:47:12 PM
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lol hellfire and brimstone *NM*
26/09/2011 12:12:28 AM
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I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement.
26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM
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You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case.
22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM
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23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM
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A list of anecdotal wrongs does not prove anything. If convictions can be wrong, so can exonerations *NM*
25/09/2011 04:03:26 AM
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sorry if i don't have time to link to every
thing i've read on the subject
23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM
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Well I would think you would have picked an article that offers some iota of proof of his innocence.
25/09/2011 04:14:45 AM
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Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence.
23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM
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Nor would I, but I've heard that lawyers say, "an eye witness is the worst witness you can have."
25/09/2011 03:23:53 PM
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