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sorry if i don't have time to link to every thing i've read on the subject moondog Send a noteboard - 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM
i linked that particular article because it got all the major points so people would understand the situation. sorry if it does not meet the cannoli stamp of approval for depth of knowledge :rolleyes:

BUT -- the entire point is that the death sentence should never be given strictly on eyewitness testimony. people lie or make severe mistakes and putting someone to death for these people's lies/mistakes should never happen in a just society. argue all you want about the one single article i linked to, but it does not change the fact that you are killing the messenger here.
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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... moondog - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM 1471 Views
Yeah it's pretty damn disgusting and frustrating... ironclad - 22/09/2011 04:08:05 PM 782 Views
Well nossy - 22/09/2011 06:57:37 PM 821 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right? Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM 843 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say. Dannymac - 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM 908 Views
But they get all the media attention Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM 782 Views
Er. Nate - 22/09/2011 05:09:44 PM 796 Views
What about the t-shirts? *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 05:47:49 PM 325 Views
Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM 867 Views
Cameron Todd Willingham is white, and his story is a national one since Perry is running for Pres Roland00 - 23/09/2011 03:41:52 PM 656 Views
those numbers are less schocking when you consider that blacks commet a lot more murders *NM* random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:43:51 PM 337 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM 819 Views
You're kidding, right? Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM 772 Views
Re: You're kidding, right? ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM 792 Views
Juror bias. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM 310 Views
the jury was majority black *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:48 PM 318 Views
In this instance, yes. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM 277 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM* ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM 316 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM 744 Views
Of course I'm interested ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM 686 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM 664 Views
No worries ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 07:10:40 PM 653 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP. Joel - 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM 728 Views
Wow ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:50:06 PM 630 Views
It happens. Joel - 25/09/2011 03:09:00 PM 678 Views
yes the "you born white what more do you want" argument *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:04 PM 309 Views
From what I've read it is pretty disturbing snoopcester - 22/09/2011 04:27:44 PM 856 Views
Huh. Nate - 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM 853 Views
That jumped out at me too. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM 774 Views
What really confuses me Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM 726 Views
That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 05:05:40 PM 805 Views
Re: That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:21:59 PM 865 Views
If the original trial is shown to be flawed that's supposed to require a new trial. Joel - 22/09/2011 08:25:51 PM 705 Views
Well... Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM 882 Views
So if I understand you correctly... LadyLorraine - 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM 820 Views
Yes, that is correct. And proving witness coercion is likely to be difficult if not impossible. *NM* Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:30:37 PM 285 Views
almost random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:25:06 PM 722 Views
Re: Well... Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:29:03 PM 778 Views
I know one reason is that MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:27:41 PM 778 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM 764 Views
you are innocent until proven guilty random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:34:57 PM 799 Views
You must change your perspective..... Jeordam - 22/09/2011 07:33:20 PM 776 Views
Well said *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 08:49:56 PM 340 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM 802 Views
On its face, that is a good reason. Joel - 22/09/2011 10:07:44 PM 821 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question..... trzaska2000 - 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM 706 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM 784 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer? trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM 771 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM 725 Views
Jigga what? *NM* trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM 347 Views
"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..." Joel - 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM 709 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM 676 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM 754 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM 683 Views
Bullshit Cannoli - 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM 917 Views
Where do YOU get the idea that imperfect contrition is good enough? Joel - 25/09/2011 02:29:18 PM 1192 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist. Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM 720 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM 710 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM* Ghavrel - 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM 289 Views
Not just Roman Catholics, y'know, everyone who thinks God was not BSing about judgement. Joel - 25/09/2011 09:47:12 PM 767 Views
lol hellfire and brimstone *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2011 12:12:28 AM 286 Views
I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement. Joel - 26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM 908 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM 803 Views
. Two Wongs - 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM 745 Views
A list of anecdotal wrongs does not prove anything. If convictions can be wrong, so can exonerations *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:03:26 AM 289 Views
Yes; it's the uncertainties that count. Either way. Two Wongs - 25/09/2011 04:15:48 AM 569 Views
sorry if i don't have time to link to every thing i've read on the subject moondog - 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM 870 Views
Well I would think you would have picked an article that offers some iota of proof of his innocence. Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:14:45 AM 790 Views
I kind of agree. Vivien - 24/09/2011 12:05:27 AM 754 Views
Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence. Vivien - 23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM 729 Views
Eyewitness testimony is incredibly unreliable. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:39:51 AM 286 Views
Nor would I, but I've heard that lawyers say, "an eye witness is the worst witness you can have." Joel - 25/09/2011 03:23:53 PM 727 Views
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