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"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..." Joel Send a noteboard - 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM
"dreaming I am a man...."

Toms recent thread on 911 conspiracy theorists illustrate the concept well, though that is far from the only example; unreasonable doubt is the bread and butter of conspiracy theories. Ironically, I happen to be re-watching the end of "Inception" with the wife; that films pivotal revelation is also a fine illustration. There is a reason science studies routinely state conclusions made "at a x% level of confidence" rather that stating them to as indisputable absolute FACTS. Absolute certainty is nigh impossible in the real world; it only seems otherwise if we fail to question our assumptions, which is a poor manner in which to decide whether to execute a man.
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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM 1473 Views
Yeah it's pretty damn disgusting and frustrating... - 22/09/2011 04:08:05 PM 784 Views
Well - 22/09/2011 06:57:37 PM 821 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right? - 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM 845 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say. - 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM 909 Views
But they get all the media attention - 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM 784 Views
Er. - 22/09/2011 05:09:44 PM 797 Views
What about the t-shirts? *NM* - 22/09/2011 05:47:49 PM 325 Views
Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM 869 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument. - 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM 821 Views
You're kidding, right? - 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM 773 Views
Re: You're kidding, right? - 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM 793 Views
Juror bias. *NM* - 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM 310 Views
the jury was majority black *NM* - 23/09/2011 09:03:48 PM 318 Views
In this instance, yes. *NM* - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM 277 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM* - 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM 316 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South. - 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM 745 Views
Of course I'm interested - 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM 687 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize. - 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM 665 Views
No worries - 24/09/2011 07:10:40 PM 653 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP. - 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM 729 Views
Wow - 23/09/2011 07:50:06 PM 632 Views
It happens. - 25/09/2011 03:09:00 PM 679 Views
yes the "you born white what more do you want" argument *NM* - 23/09/2011 09:03:04 PM 309 Views
From what I've read it is pretty disturbing - 22/09/2011 04:27:44 PM 856 Views
Huh. - 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM 854 Views
That jumped out at me too. - 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM 774 Views
What really confuses me - 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM 726 Views
Well... - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM 883 Views
So if I understand you correctly... - 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM 821 Views
almost - 22/09/2011 08:25:06 PM 724 Views
Re: Well... - 22/09/2011 05:29:03 PM 780 Views
I know one reason is that - 22/09/2011 08:27:41 PM 780 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky - 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM 765 Views
you are innocent until proven guilty - 22/09/2011 05:34:57 PM 799 Views
You must change your perspective..... - 22/09/2011 07:33:20 PM 777 Views
Well said *NM* - 22/09/2011 08:49:56 PM 340 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was - 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM 803 Views
On its face, that is a good reason. - 22/09/2011 10:07:44 PM 822 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question..... - 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM 707 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate. - 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM 785 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer? - 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM 771 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens. - 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM 725 Views
Jigga what? *NM* - 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM 347 Views
"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..." - 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM 711 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction. - 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM 677 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind. - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM 755 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal. - 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM 684 Views
Bullshit - 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM 918 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist. - 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM 721 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement - 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM 712 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM* - 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM 289 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case. - 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM 804 Views
. - 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM 747 Views
I kind of agree. - 24/09/2011 12:05:27 AM 755 Views

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