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Hm, you should read my post one above about combatting online piracy. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 18/01/2012 06:20:16 PM

It is an interesting debate to have on a site dedicated to books; is it unreasonable or draconian for Tor, Sanderson and Jordans estate to expect people PAY to possess AMoL? Or should they just invest all the time, effort and money of publishing it as an act of largesse? How many new books do you expect to be published as a charitable act each year?


A better analogy is, "What if Tor spent an obscene amount of effort on creating books you were physically incapable of lending, of creating elaborate hardcovers that could only be opened if you had the original bookstore receipt, and wanted the government to do surprise inspections of every bookshelf and library in the country to be certain that everything was legally obtained?"

And the reason they do this is because book sales are lagging?



Actually, the publishing industry is an interesting analogy, because their piracy battle was over long ago. Or have the rise of libraries, photocopiers, and home printers destroyed books?


In any case, I think my reply to ironclad might serve as a good response to your post. It essentially says that the only effective way to mitigate (mitigate, not abolish, which is impossible in this age we live in) piracy is to make the stuff people want convenient and inexpensive to access.


(But really, piracy isn't the issue here- as we've said, SOPA will do very little to actually combat piracy. What SOPA will do will make it that a site can legally be taken down if a poster uses a picture of Mickey Mouse as their message board avatar.)
I amuse myself.
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English Wikipedia Anti-SOPA Blackout - 17/01/2012 08:31:46 AM 2195 Views
Yeah, man, because currently copyright holders have no recourse, am I right? - 17/01/2012 11:47:35 AM 1018 Views
"altering the infrastructure of the Internet so as to render RAFO virtually inaccessible"? - 17/01/2012 08:12:27 PM 1134 Views
I'll go ahead and ask before I get my panties in a bunch: do you understand these bills? - 17/01/2012 09:09:22 PM 1231 Views
I admit I have not looked into it much - 17/01/2012 11:42:30 PM 1082 Views
And yet you're still arguing the matter. - 18/01/2012 02:34:04 AM 1186 Views
I love you. *NM* - 18/01/2012 03:41:03 AM 672 Views
heh, thanks. I usually find myself pushing minority opinions. Nice to be "appreciated" for once. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:01:10 AM 655 Views
Can i second the adulation? - 18/01/2012 04:07:17 AM 902 Views
I too (three?) appreciate the common sense and reasonable explanations. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:12:59 AM 653 Views
Thanks guys. - 18/01/2012 04:39:00 AM 1077 Views
Right, because the argument is not just over THIS bill but, apparently, over ANY bill. - 18/01/2012 11:09:13 AM 1086 Views
Alternatives to SOPA/PIPA have been proposed for months now. Please stop arguing this. - 18/01/2012 05:42:10 PM 998 Views
That is really all I ask. - 18/01/2012 06:26:37 PM 1067 Views
"sensitive federal content"? Provide a source justifying this claim and it's relevance, please. - 18/01/2012 05:59:47 PM 1095 Views
I would not have thought a source necessary. - 18/01/2012 06:24:44 PM 1086 Views
Okay, I'm with Aemon now. - 18/01/2012 07:36:21 PM 1101 Views
OK. - 18/01/2012 10:16:16 PM 1127 Views
Surreal. It's like you're a spam-bot or something. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:23:35 AM 788 Views
That was constructive. - 19/01/2012 03:29:53 PM 1010 Views
Very nicely summarised. *NM* - 18/01/2012 02:06:02 AM 590 Views
should be interesting - 17/01/2012 12:41:47 PM 956 Views
Could be; depends on a lot of factors. - 17/01/2012 07:38:55 PM 1027 Views
See, that's one of the biggest problems that people aren't understanding. - 17/01/2012 09:31:38 PM 1031 Views
So tell them that. - 17/01/2012 11:54:19 PM 1187 Views
Could've done without the snide rejoinder, but, good. - 17/01/2012 02:20:08 PM 950 Views
I love the black banner, like some kind of internet Holocaust. - 17/01/2012 08:03:27 PM 1094 Views
Are you aware that SOPA/PIPA has nothing to do with hackers and everything to do with copyright? - 18/01/2012 02:08:56 AM 945 Views
There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 01:08:22 PM 1050 Views
Re: There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 08:13:15 PM 946 Views
Re: There still seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 10:27:32 PM 1208 Views
Er, what Ghav said. - 18/01/2012 02:30:37 AM 962 Views
Sorry, protecting Pirate Bay and offshore gambling are not compelling counterarguments. - 18/01/2012 11:38:08 AM 1016 Views
Okay, another analogy: - 18/01/2012 02:04:12 PM 958 Views
A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP - 18/01/2012 08:32:44 AM 971 Views
"As a disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, I'm a sysadmin." - 18/01/2012 12:47:16 PM 1228 Views
wow, you are totally correct! - 18/01/2012 03:45:54 PM 967 Views
That is a separate issue. - 18/01/2012 04:01:24 PM 994 Views
Thank you for posting that. - 18/01/2012 03:09:07 PM 1034 Views
Wikipedia has already convinced me - 18/01/2012 03:26:01 PM 844 Views
Trying to stop this legislation without proposing an alternative is trying to stop ANY legislation. - 18/01/2012 03:44:18 PM 1072 Views
It isn't their job to propose legislation - 18/01/2012 04:12:53 PM 988 Views
No, but they have as much RIGHT to do so as anyone else. - 18/01/2012 05:31:55 PM 975 Views
Strike three. - 18/01/2012 05:37:55 PM 1040 Views
That is fine; that is what people SHOULD be doing. - 18/01/2012 06:03:59 PM 847 Views
Things being better now than they would be under SOPA seems like a legitimate argument to me - 18/01/2012 09:04:18 PM 1114 Views
Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 18/01/2012 10:46:48 PM 951 Views
Re: Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 19/01/2012 12:15:48 AM 1028 Views
That is a poor approach to drafting legislation, at best. - 19/01/2012 04:37:22 PM 1044 Views
About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 04:45:08 PM 1104 Views
So true - 18/01/2012 05:08:45 PM 1048 Views
Not to go off on a tangent about combatting piracy... - 18/01/2012 05:38:12 PM 954 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:13:13 PM 646 Views
That was an excellent post. *NM* - 19/01/2012 11:18:19 PM 626 Views
Re: About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 05:59:55 PM 1184 Views
Hm, you should read my post one above about combatting online piracy. - 18/01/2012 06:20:16 PM 1131 Views
For those who want a short, one page explanation... - 18/01/2012 05:41:49 PM 977 Views
Yeah, so I use Russian wikipedia for a day. Or German wikipedia, or French, or Italian... *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:23:36 PM 698 Views
We get it: You are a polyglot. - 18/01/2012 06:27:48 PM 964 Views
Or just hit stop right before the script runs. *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:52:40 PM 690 Views
Or just disable Java. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:58:03 AM 558 Views
That's not as much fun though. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:13:44 AM 685 Views
Exactly, this way its kind of a game. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:20:37 AM 496 Views
Or Answers.com, or even the actual sources that are often copy/pasted into Wikipedia... - 19/01/2012 01:07:38 AM 1067 Views
They all did it on twitter - 19/01/2012 01:26:19 AM 1003 Views
I was asleep much of the day - 19/01/2012 02:40:11 AM 1081 Views
Oh, no; now Congress will be inundated with complaints from lazy college students! - 19/01/2012 04:40:12 PM 1118 Views
13 previously unopposed senators now do not support SOPA. - 19/01/2012 11:36:15 PM 1081 Views
How does that "rebutt" what was a facetious post in the first place? - 20/01/2012 09:24:27 PM 1174 Views
a joke can, indeed, be rebutted... - 21/01/2012 09:07:32 PM 1077 Views
Oh, draggie, I ALWAYS see what you do there. - 21/01/2012 10:01:58 PM 1033 Views

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