I just want to comment on a couple things. I feel like you're a little bit behind the times.
Aemon Send a noteboard - 06/02/2012 05:23:40 AM
I object to the following three statements pretty strongly. I'll try to respond to each statement individually and then summarize at the end.
See, I think you're stuck remembering piracy of old, back from the days when everything was compressed to squeeze through tiny internet pipes and physical media gave you a better experience. These days, it doesn't. If I wanted to, I could download a DVD rip in minutes, and a Blu-ray rip in an hour or two on a standard US broadband connection. The quality of content between legal and non-legal channels is identical. Oh, except that the rips will be stripped of the ads and FBI notices that make it annoying and time consuming just to get to the main menu.
Again, you're thinking that digital copies are second class citizens; that they're not suited for the enthusiastic collector. But that's just not true. Digital copies can be displayed using personal media center software, which is easy to get and child's play to use. You get all of your movies in one place, displayed gorgeously on your big screen complete with cover art and background posters. Your movies have plot summaries, are sortable and searchable by all kinds of metadata (actors, genre, age, etc), can be paused and resumed at the same point months later. . .the list goes on.
In short, you get something like this instead of this.
As I mentioned above, it's far easier and more attractive to display and show off your movies with an HTPC than it could ever be on a shelf. Even if you don't agree, though, we're arguing over art at this point. The consumption of a movie is in all ways superior with a digital file that you control on your hard drive vs one locked away on a piece of breakable, losable plastic. But if it's just the physical display you're after, just buy 100 DVD cases on ebay for five bucks and then print out covers on glossy paper. You're talking less than 50 cents per movie.
Anyway. The promised summary, now.
What I'm really trying to get across is that movies are digital files, period. It is faster and cheaper to distribute and obtain these files via purely electronic means, rather than locking them onto physical media. We no longer live in an age of slow internet; you can get the same content over the wire that you can in your store. Except that you get it orders of magnitude faster. The three statements of yours that I quoted seem to strongly state that buying a physical copy is the way to go, and that is really what I disagree with.
The experience of obtaining and owning a file electronically is superior to doing the same thing via physical means.
I don't like how the article assumes everyone's is a lazy ass comp nerd who wants his films as .avi files. I know I don't.
See, I think you're stuck remembering piracy of old, back from the days when everything was compressed to squeeze through tiny internet pipes and physical media gave you a better experience. These days, it doesn't. If I wanted to, I could download a DVD rip in minutes, and a Blu-ray rip in an hour or two on a standard US broadband connection. The quality of content between legal and non-legal channels is identical. Oh, except that the rips will be stripped of the ads and FBI notices that make it annoying and time consuming just to get to the main menu.
With movie collectors like me apparently being the minority by now, the solution is for the industry to accept that this is a war they can not win in the long run and offer solutions that are easy and cheap for everyone, like the example used here.
Again, you're thinking that digital copies are second class citizens; that they're not suited for the enthusiastic collector. But that's just not true. Digital copies can be displayed using personal media center software, which is easy to get and child's play to use. You get all of your movies in one place, displayed gorgeously on your big screen complete with cover art and background posters. Your movies have plot summaries, are sortable and searchable by all kinds of metadata (actors, genre, age, etc), can be paused and resumed at the same point months later. . .the list goes on.
In short, you get something like this instead of this.
If I love something I don't want it sitting on my hard drive, I want a cover around it and sit on my shelf. I really hope the majority of people still feel the same way.
As I mentioned above, it's far easier and more attractive to display and show off your movies with an HTPC than it could ever be on a shelf. Even if you don't agree, though, we're arguing over art at this point. The consumption of a movie is in all ways superior with a digital file that you control on your hard drive vs one locked away on a piece of breakable, losable plastic. But if it's just the physical display you're after, just buy 100 DVD cases on ebay for five bucks and then print out covers on glossy paper. You're talking less than 50 cents per movie.
Anyway. The promised summary, now.
What I'm really trying to get across is that movies are digital files, period. It is faster and cheaper to distribute and obtain these files via purely electronic means, rather than locking them onto physical media. We no longer live in an age of slow internet; you can get the same content over the wire that you can in your store. Except that you get it orders of magnitude faster. The three statements of yours that I quoted seem to strongly state that buying a physical copy is the way to go, and that is really what I disagree with.
The experience of obtaining and owning a file electronically is superior to doing the same thing via physical means.
You will never kill piracy, and piracy will never kill you
05/02/2012 06:56:57 PM
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The article both raises good points and is full of shit
05/02/2012 11:36:25 PM
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Re: The article both raises good points and is full of shit
06/02/2012 02:11:38 AM
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Then it really seems to differ between our countries
06/02/2012 10:52:39 AM
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What are your ticket prices? *NM*
06/02/2012 12:53:04 PM
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Between 5 (students or special offers) and 10 - 11 Euro for 3D films. *NM*
06/02/2012 01:12:08 PM
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With the exchange rate, that sounds fairly comparable to my local area.
06/02/2012 04:20:18 PM
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are those theaters all hollywood movies or from european studios?
06/02/2012 03:01:37 PM
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I just want to comment on a couple things. I feel like you're a little bit behind the times.
06/02/2012 05:23:40 AM
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Well, call me old-fashioned but I think that'll be my preference for a while now.
06/02/2012 10:36:41 AM
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It's not just a matter of taste when one technology is demonstrably superior.
06/02/2012 04:04:27 PM
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Re: It's not just a matter of taste when one technology is demonstrably superior.
06/02/2012 04:27:09 PM
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My age is gonna show even more in the next reply, but here we go
06/02/2012 06:25:09 PM
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Re: My age is gonna show even more in the next reply, but here we go
06/02/2012 08:13:48 PM
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Re: My age is gonna show even more in the next reply, but here we go
06/02/2012 11:04:21 PM
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I did not ask for alternative LAWS, Obama did; I merely quoted him, and this article mentions no law
07/02/2012 04:50:14 AM
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you're confusing the issue
07/02/2012 06:22:30 AM
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No, I am clarifying the issue.
07/02/2012 06:54:40 AM
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again, you are taking the wrong approach
07/02/2012 03:57:03 PM
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I disagree, and there are factual errors in your statements.
07/02/2012 07:36:16 PM
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actually, there are not
08/02/2012 04:15:09 AM
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Yeah, actually there are.
09/02/2012 01:53:02 AM
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Re: Yeah, actually there are.
10/02/2012 04:11:10 AM
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Technically, the first point is true, but I disagree the distinction is important in terms of piracy
12/02/2012 01:09:01 AM
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Without realizing Joel, you're getting closer and closer to some of our views...
12/02/2012 09:24:22 AM
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To a large extent my issue is with means rather than ends.
13/02/2012 09:45:39 AM
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Re: No, I am clarifying the issue.
07/02/2012 07:52:42 PM
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It is not the same as taping an album for a friend.
09/02/2012 01:18:42 AM
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