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No, I am clarifying the issue. Joel Send a noteboard - 07/02/2012 06:54:40 AM
you're trying to say that *everyone* who is pirating copyrighted material is just doing so because they can't afford, or don't want to buy, what they are pirating. i would say that if you follow the trends and most of the independent studies on the subject, the fact is that well over 50% of people who pirate do it for reasons other than just plain getting something for free. in many cases, it's because they are willing to buy the product but are either not getting it in a format they prefer, or they want to be able to justify purchasing it in a physical format and are using the downloaded version to make sure it's worth buying. having alternatives to the brick and mortar stores and/or expensive movie theaters would greatly reduce piracy to the tune that a lot of people who are currently pirating would turn into paying customers instead of criminals. are you honestly telling me that if you could subscribe to a service that gave you all the broncos games in a season for $10 you would still stream them for free through illegal websites?

You know the only thing more speculative than Big Medias sales losses due to piracy? The extent they could reduce piracy with their own cheap, easy and reliable download portals. Any study claiming to put a number on that is just guessing. Are you honestly telling people who will illegally download copyrighted material for free under ANY circumstances will admit that when asked? Even though the inability to do it legally is the most popular explanation/excuse for doing it illegally?

I agree this is not an end user problem, but it is most definitely an illegal for profit provider problem. I would not criminalize obtaining copyrighted electronic data for free any more than I would criminalize people making and mailing Phish concert tapes. If I correctly recall the way you explained that to me, Phish did not mind either—unless there was money involved, because then someone else was making a profit off their work, a valid complaint. We should target the sites, aggressively, using every legal means to block access to them and any site deliberately providing that access, shutting them down and prosecuting the operators when possible, just like we do any other thief. We should NOT target everyone who has ever had even brief and/or innocent contact with them, or let unsubstantiated unspecified accusations of piracy justify blocking/taking down sites.

Those are straightforward improvements over SO/PIPA. We would not even have to worry about Congress comprehending measures so similar to what they did with the DMCA. And before you say it again, no, that does not prove DMCA adequate, because the proposed legislation specifically targets regions outside DMCAs jurisdiction. Buying a new set of tires does not obviate the need to change sparkplugs.

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Pretty much - 05/02/2012 08:39:16 PM 319 Views
The article both raises good points and is full of shit - 05/02/2012 11:36:25 PM 587 Views
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Then it really seems to differ between our countries - 06/02/2012 10:52:39 AM 459 Views
What are your ticket prices? *NM* - 06/02/2012 12:53:04 PM 200 Views
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Both, basically - 06/02/2012 04:55:36 PM 512 Views
I just want to comment on a couple things. I feel like you're a little bit behind the times. - 06/02/2012 05:23:40 AM 584 Views
Disagree. *NM* - 06/02/2012 09:38:56 AM 346 Views
Feel like explaining? *NM* - 06/02/2012 03:25:11 PM 178 Views
Well, call me old-fashioned but I think that'll be my preference for a while now. - 06/02/2012 10:36:41 AM 449 Views
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Re: It's not just a matter of taste when one technology is demonstrably superior. - 06/02/2012 04:27:09 PM 351 Views
It's rare, I'll admit. - 06/02/2012 06:19:20 PM 338 Views
My age is gonna show even more in the next reply, but here we go - 06/02/2012 06:25:09 PM 453 Views
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I'll give you a hint. - 13/02/2012 03:31:56 PM 582 Views
Re: I'll give you a hint. - 14/02/2012 01:52:50 AM 388 Views
yeah, cinemas here aren't doing so well - 06/02/2012 01:33:06 PM 408 Views
That subject line well encapsulates this whole debate, IMHO. - 07/02/2012 07:52:22 PM 440 Views
That pretty much echoes my opinion on the subject - 06/02/2012 12:56:49 AM 496 Views
Holy text-wall, Batman! - 06/02/2012 12:49:28 PM 396 Views
I did not ask for alternative LAWS, Obama did; I merely quoted him, and this article mentions no law - 07/02/2012 04:50:14 AM 519 Views
you're confusing the issue - 07/02/2012 06:22:30 AM 388 Views
No, I am clarifying the issue. - 07/02/2012 06:54:40 AM 508 Views
again, you are taking the wrong approach - 07/02/2012 03:57:03 PM 485 Views
I disagree, and there are factual errors in your statements. - 07/02/2012 07:36:16 PM 463 Views
actually, there are not - 08/02/2012 04:15:09 AM 372 Views
Yeah, actually there are. - 09/02/2012 01:53:02 AM 479 Views
Re: No, I am clarifying the issue. - 07/02/2012 07:52:42 PM 432 Views
It is not the same as taping an album for a friend. - 09/02/2012 01:18:42 AM 478 Views
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