Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control?
wooly Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM
I used to be vehemently anti-gun but my opinions have evolved over the years. Still, my knee-jerk reaction to the news on Friday morning was "tell me again how guns don't kill people..." Then I thought about it for a long while. I've lived with responsible gun owners several times over the years. Do I want to take their guns away? To me the answer is clearly no. In fact there was at least two occasions where I was glad to have that sort of security in the house.
My next thought was: cue the anti-gun fanatics who point to this example in Colorado as a very reasonable case in support of their cause. Cue the second amendment rights activists with misleading statistics and ridiculous rhetoric in support of their cause. Both sides have been vocal after this tragedy. There isn't a right answer to this. The question is how much are we willing to sacrifice to preserve second amendment rights. The answer varies and we will never have a concensus that makes everyone happy. Do you feel that gun ownership rights are worth the price we pay for them sometimes?
As an aside: the pro-gun rhetoric bothers me a lot more than the rhetoric from the other side. Retarded statements about inanimate objects not killing people bother the shit out of me. Tell me somebody armed with a rock or a knife could have caused the kind of carnage we saw in Colorado. No? Ok then stop using that arguement. I personally don't want to take away your guns if you are a responsible gun owner, but I do want to slap you when you use that particular line of reasoning.
Where do you stand on this? I personally will probably never own a gun, but I like the idea that I could. I don't think that one of the weapons used in the massacre (the AR15) should be legal to own though. I also think that some sort of phychological test should be administered to those who want to buy guns. The really hard part is who should decide what guns should or should not be legal, and who decides who is sane enough to own a gun. These aren't easy questions to answer. What do you think?
My next thought was: cue the anti-gun fanatics who point to this example in Colorado as a very reasonable case in support of their cause. Cue the second amendment rights activists with misleading statistics and ridiculous rhetoric in support of their cause. Both sides have been vocal after this tragedy. There isn't a right answer to this. The question is how much are we willing to sacrifice to preserve second amendment rights. The answer varies and we will never have a concensus that makes everyone happy. Do you feel that gun ownership rights are worth the price we pay for them sometimes?
As an aside: the pro-gun rhetoric bothers me a lot more than the rhetoric from the other side. Retarded statements about inanimate objects not killing people bother the shit out of me. Tell me somebody armed with a rock or a knife could have caused the kind of carnage we saw in Colorado. No? Ok then stop using that arguement. I personally don't want to take away your guns if you are a responsible gun owner, but I do want to slap you when you use that particular line of reasoning.
Where do you stand on this? I personally will probably never own a gun, but I like the idea that I could. I don't think that one of the weapons used in the massacre (the AR15) should be legal to own though. I also think that some sort of phychological test should be administered to those who want to buy guns. The really hard part is who should decide what guns should or should not be legal, and who decides who is sane enough to own a gun. These aren't easy questions to answer. What do you think?
Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control?
- 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM
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Kind of?
- 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM
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Agreed
- 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM
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Re: Agreed
- 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM
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A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too.
- 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM
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I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything
- 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM
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Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US)
- 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM
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Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns
- 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM
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I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry.
- 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM
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- 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM
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Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry.
- 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM
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- 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM
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Re:
- 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM
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My dad's gun were stolen and the police said they didn't need to even take fingerprints
- 25/07/2012 06:58:36 PM
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I understand, but you probably should if time permits
- 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM
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It is unlikely to, for a while.
- 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM
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Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though
- 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM
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- 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM
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... his was shorter?
- 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM
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Yeah but mine had diagrams!
- 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM
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I do sometimes need pictures.
- 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM
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Where exactly did you get those numbers?
- 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM
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Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation
- 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM
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Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies.
- 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM
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I'm not surprised there were missing incidents
- 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM
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Norway? Scotland?
- 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM
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And yet, the people who do these things tend to be more respectful of guns
- 25/07/2012 03:44:31 PM
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Well working with dangeorus items tends to lead to respect and caution or a Darwin Award
- 25/07/2012 04:52:13 PM
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I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people
- 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM
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Re: guns
- 25/07/2012 03:07:30 PM
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what is the basis for your argument that people would have panicked and forgotten their guns?
- 25/07/2012 04:45:46 PM
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My basis is that people are people - subject to panic, confusion, and fear. *NM*
- 25/07/2012 05:46:58 PM
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Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience
- 25/07/2012 06:14:57 PM
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Re: Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience
- 25/07/2012 06:45:02 PM
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Putting your hand on something is a little different then shooting someone
- 25/07/2012 08:13:59 PM
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The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic
- 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM
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Bullshit
- 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM
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I call Bullshit on your Bullshit
- 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM
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Or
- 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM
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There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater
- 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM
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HE was talking about normal people.
- 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM
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i have pretty strong feelings that they should be better regulated than they currently are
- 25/07/2012 03:18:10 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong....
- 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM
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I believe it was the ammunition he bought in large amounts online, not the guns themselves.
- 25/07/2012 07:22:31 PM
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Yes and I am glad it's not my problem.
- 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM
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Well, you're missing the flaw in your reasoning...probably because you're appallingly ignorant
- 25/07/2012 09:19:18 PM
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Come back when you can discuss something without attacking someone.
- 26/07/2012 12:58:47 AM
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Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense
- 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM
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They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM*
- 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM
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they don't typically bring guns here either
- 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM
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That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers
- 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM
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Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun
- 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM
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the argument of if America should have a lot guns is a long over
- 26/07/2012 03:29:50 PM
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See, there's another one of those BS stats tricks, 'family members' includes suicides and murder
- 26/07/2012 06:47:54 PM
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Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms.
- 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM
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assault rifles are banned
- 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM
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I know the distinction. That's why I want a more clearly defined term for "assault weapon."
- 27/07/2012 09:46:11 AM
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Then stay away from the hyperbole because an Uzi is a sub machinegun so it is banned
- 27/07/2012 01:48:50 PM
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