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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? wooly Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM
I used to be vehemently anti-gun but my opinions have evolved over the years. Still, my knee-jerk reaction to the news on Friday morning was "tell me again how guns don't kill people..." Then I thought about it for a long while. I've lived with responsible gun owners several times over the years. Do I want to take their guns away? To me the answer is clearly no. In fact there was at least two occasions where I was glad to have that sort of security in the house.

My next thought was: cue the anti-gun fanatics who point to this example in Colorado as a very reasonable case in support of their cause. Cue the second amendment rights activists with misleading statistics and ridiculous rhetoric in support of their cause. Both sides have been vocal after this tragedy. There isn't a right answer to this. The question is how much are we willing to sacrifice to preserve second amendment rights. The answer varies and we will never have a concensus that makes everyone happy. Do you feel that gun ownership rights are worth the price we pay for them sometimes?

As an aside: the pro-gun rhetoric bothers me a lot more than the rhetoric from the other side. Retarded statements about inanimate objects not killing people bother the shit out of me. Tell me somebody armed with a rock or a knife could have caused the kind of carnage we saw in Colorado. No? Ok then stop using that arguement. I personally don't want to take away your guns if you are a responsible gun owner, but I do want to slap you when you use that particular line of reasoning.

Where do you stand on this? I personally will probably never own a gun, but I like the idea that I could. I don't think that one of the weapons used in the massacre (the AR15) should be legal to own though. I also think that some sort of phychological test should be administered to those who want to buy guns. The really hard part is who should decide what guns should or should not be legal, and who decides who is sane enough to own a gun. These aren't easy questions to answer. What do you think?
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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1495 Views
Kind of? - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 943 Views
Agreed - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 814 Views
Re: Agreed - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 930 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 919 Views
Feisty. - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 1027 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 856 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 729 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 851 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 944 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 987 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 894 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 1099 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 994 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 871 Views
Re: - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 910 Views
Okay, that makes no sense - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 928 Views
Re: Re: - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 959 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 958 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 1071 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 953 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 891 Views
... his was shorter? - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 812 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 894 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 751 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 894 Views
*NM* - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 426 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 904 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 945 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 978 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 899 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 871 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 846 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 1014 Views
Norway? Scotland? - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 850 Views
You can keep this up - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 837 Views
Hi, Cannoli. - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 857 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 811 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 1026 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 915 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 799 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 942 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 817 Views
Bullshit - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 959 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 875 Views
Or - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 784 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 795 Views
HE was talking about normal people. - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 907 Views
I think we are talking past each other - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 873 Views
Possibly. We do do that. - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 902 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 829 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 884 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 1040 Views
You're wrong - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 812 Views
Yes. - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 816 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 954 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 847 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 855 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 414 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 952 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 805 Views
Ha! - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 727 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 918 Views
You get some wild stories - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 921 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 816 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 924 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 904 Views
assault rifles are banned - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 857 Views
Touchy - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 1038 Views

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