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Re: moondog Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM
Which is fine, until some criminal breaks into your house and steals all your guns. Now what? Your trained, licensed, tracked, and limited purchases are now in the hands of someone who not only meets none of these specifications, but is actually likely to do something with them! (and yes, my dad had this happen - so it's not a hypothetical argument for me)


sorry to sound rude, but do they not have a police force where your dad lives? i have a hard time believing that a robbery can be committed involving guns and the police would just sit around and wait for one of those guns to turn up instead of investigating, taking fingerprints, etc. i realize there is a lot of waiting around for something like that, but from some of the cops i've debated this very issue with, they have an idea of who to go to to buy a stolen weapon.

I don't do the "guns are evil" thing, but I do know they can kill a heck of a lot better than knives or sticks.


Pipe bombs are even easier to make than guns, and in a crowded theater or bus would probably kill even more than a single person armed with guns... which is exactly what was happening in Israel/Palestine what, 15 years ago?


yeah a bomb could have *potentially* done more damage as far as number of dead/injured, but the people who set bombs like that don't usually do so without a clear agenda for setting it off. even though james holmes clearly had the means and knowledge to create a set of bombs, he chose instead to go with guns to do the actual killing. there is a reason for that, and i'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with how relatively easy it is to get a gun in the US :rolleyes:
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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? wooly - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1460 Views
Kind of? nossy - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 902 Views
Agreed wooly - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 752 Views
Re: Agreed nossy - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 899 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 888 Views
Feisty. nossy - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 995 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything A Deathwatch Guard - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 822 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. wooly - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 697 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? A Deathwatch Guard - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 821 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) snoopcester - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 905 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. Stephen - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 955 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. snoopcester - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 849 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns Isaac - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 1032 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 938 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 840 Views
Re: moondog - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 882 Views
Okay, that makes no sense Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 894 Views
Re: Re: Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 927 Views
My dad's gun were stolen and the police said they didn't need to even take fingerprints random thoughts - 25/07/2012 06:58:36 PM 903 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 928 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits Isaac - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 1043 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 920 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though Isaac - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 857 Views
... his was shorter? nossy - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 784 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! Isaac - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 862 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 712 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. Isaac - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 866 Views
*NM* nossy - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 415 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? Legolas - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 878 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. Nate - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 911 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation Isaac - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 942 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. Legolas - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 865 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 839 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Legolas - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 815 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 977 Views
Norway? Scotland? Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 812 Views
You can keep this up nossy - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 804 Views
Hi, Cannoli. Nate - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 826 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 780 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 995 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. Cannoli - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 881 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. Rebekah - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 766 Views
And yet, the people who do these things tend to be more respectful of guns Tom - 25/07/2012 03:44:31 PM 826 Views
Well working with dangeorus items tends to lead to respect and caution or a Darwin Award Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:52:13 PM 878 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people Tom - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 887 Views
Re: guns Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:07:30 PM 932 Views
what is the basis for your argument that people would have panicked and forgotten their guns? random thoughts - 25/07/2012 04:45:46 PM 789 Views
My basis is that people are people - subject to panic, confusion, and fear. *NM* Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:46:58 PM 469 Views
Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience Isaac - 25/07/2012 06:14:57 PM 834 Views
Re: Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:45:02 PM 937 Views
Putting your hand on something is a little different then shooting someone Isaac - 25/07/2012 08:13:59 PM 793 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic random thoughts - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 785 Views
Bullshit Roland00 - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 932 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 842 Views
Or nossy - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 752 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 765 Views
HE was talking about normal people. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 868 Views
I think we are talking past each other random thoughts - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 842 Views
Possibly. We do do that. nossy - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 869 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... Tom - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 797 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong Isaac - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 852 Views
i have pretty strong feelings that they should be better regulated than they currently are moondog - 25/07/2012 03:18:10 PM 783 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... Jeordam - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 1009 Views
You're wrong Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 778 Views
I believe it was the ammunition he bought in large amounts online, not the guns themselves. Legolas - 25/07/2012 07:22:31 PM 810 Views
Yes. Palatine - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 776 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 922 Views
Well, you're missing the flaw in your reasoning...probably because you're appallingly ignorant Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:19:18 PM 1010 Views
Come back when you can discuss something without attacking someone. ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:58:47 AM 811 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 818 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 820 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 402 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 915 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers Isaac - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 763 Views
Ha! ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 696 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 880 Views
You get some wild stories Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 891 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 784 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 897 Views
the argument of if America should have a lot guns is a long over random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:29:50 PM 748 Views
See, there's another one of those BS stats tricks, 'family members' includes suicides and murder Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:47:54 PM 776 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. Ghavrel - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 852 Views
assault rifles are banned random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 824 Views
I know the distinction. That's why I want a more clearly defined term for "assault weapon." Ghavrel - 27/07/2012 09:46:11 AM 953 Views
Then stay away from the hyperbole because an Uzi is a sub machinegun so it is banned random thoughts - 27/07/2012 01:48:50 PM 798 Views
Touchy Jedi Wolf Sister - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 1000 Views
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