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Re: moondog Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM
Which is fine, until some criminal breaks into your house and steals all your guns. Now what? Your trained, licensed, tracked, and limited purchases are now in the hands of someone who not only meets none of these specifications, but is actually likely to do something with them! (and yes, my dad had this happen - so it's not a hypothetical argument for me)


sorry to sound rude, but do they not have a police force where your dad lives? i have a hard time believing that a robbery can be committed involving guns and the police would just sit around and wait for one of those guns to turn up instead of investigating, taking fingerprints, etc. i realize there is a lot of waiting around for something like that, but from some of the cops i've debated this very issue with, they have an idea of who to go to to buy a stolen weapon.

I don't do the "guns are evil" thing, but I do know they can kill a heck of a lot better than knives or sticks.


Pipe bombs are even easier to make than guns, and in a crowded theater or bus would probably kill even more than a single person armed with guns... which is exactly what was happening in Israel/Palestine what, 15 years ago?


yeah a bomb could have *potentially* done more damage as far as number of dead/injured, but the people who set bombs like that don't usually do so without a clear agenda for setting it off. even though james holmes clearly had the means and knowledge to create a set of bombs, he chose instead to go with guns to do the actual killing. there is a reason for that, and i'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with how relatively easy it is to get a gun in the US :rolleyes:
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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? wooly - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1420 Views
Kind of? nossy - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 868 Views
Agreed wooly - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 716 Views
Re: Agreed nossy - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 861 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 847 Views
Feisty. nossy - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 946 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything A Deathwatch Guard - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 782 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. wooly - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 660 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? A Deathwatch Guard - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 783 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) snoopcester - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 857 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. Stephen - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 915 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. snoopcester - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 794 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns Isaac - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 993 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 897 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 805 Views
Re: moondog - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 846 Views
Okay, that makes no sense Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 855 Views
Re: Re: Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 882 Views
My dad's gun were stolen and the police said they didn't need to even take fingerprints random thoughts - 25/07/2012 06:58:36 PM 861 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 884 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits Isaac - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 1003 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 884 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though Isaac - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 818 Views
... his was shorter? nossy - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 739 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! Isaac - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 817 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 673 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. Isaac - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 815 Views
*NM* nossy - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 396 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? Legolas - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 841 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. Nate - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 873 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation Isaac - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 900 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. Legolas - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 803 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 794 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Legolas - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 773 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 933 Views
Norway? Scotland? Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 777 Views
You can keep this up nossy - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 769 Views
Hi, Cannoli. Nate - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 783 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 736 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 956 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. Cannoli - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 836 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. Rebekah - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 727 Views
And yet, the people who do these things tend to be more respectful of guns Tom - 25/07/2012 03:44:31 PM 779 Views
Well working with dangeorus items tends to lead to respect and caution or a Darwin Award Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:52:13 PM 831 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people Tom - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 847 Views
Re: guns Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:07:30 PM 888 Views
what is the basis for your argument that people would have panicked and forgotten their guns? random thoughts - 25/07/2012 04:45:46 PM 747 Views
My basis is that people are people - subject to panic, confusion, and fear. *NM* Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:46:58 PM 454 Views
Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience Isaac - 25/07/2012 06:14:57 PM 790 Views
Re: Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:45:02 PM 898 Views
Putting your hand on something is a little different then shooting someone Isaac - 25/07/2012 08:13:59 PM 750 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic random thoughts - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 747 Views
Bullshit Roland00 - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 892 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 804 Views
Or nossy - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 710 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 728 Views
HE was talking about normal people. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 826 Views
I think we are talking past each other random thoughts - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 785 Views
Possibly. We do do that. nossy - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 820 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... Tom - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 749 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong Isaac - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 808 Views
i have pretty strong feelings that they should be better regulated than they currently are moondog - 25/07/2012 03:18:10 PM 727 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... Jeordam - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 968 Views
You're wrong Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 736 Views
I believe it was the ammunition he bought in large amounts online, not the guns themselves. Legolas - 25/07/2012 07:22:31 PM 765 Views
Yes. Palatine - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 738 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 879 Views
Well, you're missing the flaw in your reasoning...probably because you're appallingly ignorant Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:19:18 PM 960 Views
Come back when you can discuss something without attacking someone. ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:58:47 AM 771 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 780 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 780 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 387 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 866 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers Isaac - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 721 Views
Ha! ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 652 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 838 Views
You get some wild stories Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 852 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 743 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 856 Views
the argument of if America should have a lot guns is a long over random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:29:50 PM 689 Views
See, there's another one of those BS stats tricks, 'family members' includes suicides and murder Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:47:54 PM 727 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. Ghavrel - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 815 Views
assault rifles are banned random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 778 Views
I know the distinction. That's why I want a more clearly defined term for "assault weapon." Ghavrel - 27/07/2012 09:46:11 AM 913 Views
Then stay away from the hyperbole because an Uzi is a sub machinegun so it is banned random thoughts - 27/07/2012 01:48:50 PM 754 Views
Touchy Jedi Wolf Sister - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 966 Views
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