Most of those numbers come from inner city violence
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM
I don't believe any of the other developed countries have the issues with large minority groups living in inner city ghettos and infested with drugs. If you look outside those groups the murder rate in the US pretty similar to other industrialized nations. If the majority of murder is being committed by one demographic then comparing the murder rates to countries that don’t pose that demographic is not only meaningless it is highly misleading. Looked at logically and not emotionally the murder rate in the US is more the product of our inability to clean up our inner cities and ghettos then it is our gun laws.
This message last edited by random thoughts on 26/07/2012 at 10:41:33 PM
Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control?
- 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM
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Kind of?
- 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM
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Agreed
- 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM
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Re: Agreed
- 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM
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A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too.
- 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM
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I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything
- 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM
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Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US)
- 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM
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Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns
- 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM
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I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. 
- 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM
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- 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM
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Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry.
- 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM
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- 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM
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Re:
- 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM
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My dad's gun were stolen and the police said they didn't need to even take fingerprints
- 25/07/2012 06:58:36 PM
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I understand, but you probably should if time permits
- 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM
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It is unlikely to, for a while.
- 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM
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Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though 
- 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM
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- 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM
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... his was shorter?
- 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM
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Yeah but mine had diagrams!
- 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM
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I do sometimes need pictures.
- 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM
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Where exactly did you get those numbers?
- 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM
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Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation
- 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM
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Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies.
- 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM
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I'm not surprised there were missing incidents
- 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM
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Norway? Scotland?
- 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM
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Hi, Cannoli.
- 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM
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Most of those numbers come from inner city violence
- 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM
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And yet, the people who do these things tend to be more respectful of guns
- 25/07/2012 03:44:31 PM
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Well working with dangeorus items tends to lead to respect and caution or a Darwin Award
- 25/07/2012 04:52:13 PM
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I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people
- 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM
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Re: guns
- 25/07/2012 03:07:30 PM
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what is the basis for your argument that people would have panicked and forgotten their guns?
- 25/07/2012 04:45:46 PM
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My basis is that people are people - subject to panic, confusion, and fear. *NM*
- 25/07/2012 05:46:58 PM
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Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience
- 25/07/2012 06:14:57 PM
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Re: Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience
- 25/07/2012 06:45:02 PM
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Putting your hand on something is a little different then shooting someone
- 25/07/2012 08:13:59 PM
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The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic
- 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM
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Bullshit
- 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM
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I call Bullshit on your Bullshit
- 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM
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Or
- 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM
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There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater
- 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM
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HE was talking about normal people.
- 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM
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i have pretty strong feelings that they should be better regulated than they currently are
- 25/07/2012 03:18:10 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong....
- 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM
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I believe it was the ammunition he bought in large amounts online, not the guns themselves.
- 25/07/2012 07:22:31 PM
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Yes and I am glad it's not my problem.
- 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM
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Well, you're missing the flaw in your reasoning...probably because you're appallingly ignorant
- 25/07/2012 09:19:18 PM
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Come back when you can discuss something without attacking someone.
- 26/07/2012 12:58:47 AM
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Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense
- 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM
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They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM*
- 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM
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they don't typically bring guns here either
- 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM
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That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers
- 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM
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Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun
- 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM
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the argument of if America should have a lot guns is a long over
- 26/07/2012 03:29:50 PM
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See, there's another one of those BS stats tricks, 'family members' includes suicides and murder
- 26/07/2012 06:47:54 PM
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Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms.
- 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM
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assault rifles are banned
- 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM
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I know the distinction. That's why I want a more clearly defined term for "assault weapon."
- 27/07/2012 09:46:11 AM
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Then stay away from the hyperbole because an Uzi is a sub machinegun so it is banned
- 27/07/2012 01:48:50 PM
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