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That's an oversimplification. Tom Send a noteboard - 29/07/2012 03:13:14 AM
First, on your point about "private organizations", those "private" organizations represent an entire nation, so it's a bit different than having a church use arbitrary standards on who can worship in what is purely a private function.

Second, while I'm sure that some of the people opposed to immigration may be racists (including Voula Papachristou), the notion that nations are ethnic homelands (aside from the US, which pretty much wiped out its native inhabitants, Canada, which came close to doing the same thing, Australia, which came close to doing the same thing, etc.) is not necessarily a racist one. The reason the UN endorsed the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine after World War II was in part because it was felt that if the Jews had a nation that was "theirs", it would be harder to repeat the Holocaust. I could rephrase that notion the way my father-in-law puts it: "I might move to Israel. Everywhere else there will be people who say I'm just another dirty Jew."

As a result, an influx of immigrants with different traditions and ways of living can be seen as a threat to this cultural link, particularly for smaller ethnic groups. I don't think that everyone who is anti-immigrant is by definition racist. Conservative, perhaps reactionary by definition, but not ipso facto racist. I'm not going to presume to know what is in the hearts of every person who wants to limit immigration in European countries.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? - 25/07/2012 10:55:19 PM 1429 Views
Being on a country's Olympic team is a privilege, not a right - 25/07/2012 11:00:24 PM 901 Views
So banning blacks would be cool if it was legal in that country? - 25/07/2012 11:08:52 PM 1043 Views
If that's how the country wants to run itself - 25/07/2012 11:13:04 PM 922 Views
The IOC can ban nations from participating for that sort of stunt. - 25/07/2012 11:33:23 PM 1074 Views
So that excuses thought control? - 25/07/2012 11:49:58 PM 981 Views
If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run... - 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM 1115 Views
Yes. Political power should not be used to enforce morals. - 25/07/2012 11:53:19 PM 849 Views
The national Olympic Committees aren't the government. - 26/07/2012 12:02:43 AM 832 Views
Even worse. - 26/07/2012 12:08:05 AM 878 Views
Erm - 26/07/2012 12:29:32 AM 921 Views
I fail to see how the whole team would be thrown out. - 26/07/2012 12:41:16 AM 912 Views
Because the IOC throws them out if the national government interferes in the national committe. *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:43:39 AM 483 Views
Well, that's absurd. - 26/07/2012 01:09:41 AM 992 Views
As with most things, I doubt the practice matches the theory - 26/07/2012 10:45:55 AM 890 Views
Africans != illegals - 25/07/2012 11:19:32 PM 952 Views
Specious reasoning. - 26/07/2012 12:07:08 AM 817 Views
Who are you to decide that? - 26/07/2012 12:16:45 AM 982 Views
I'm not the one deciding. - 26/07/2012 12:36:17 AM 820 Views
Essentially you're saying "there are lots of racists in Europe". - 26/07/2012 08:28:26 AM 940 Views
That's an oversimplification. - 29/07/2012 03:13:14 AM 893 Views
You stated it as a fact. - 26/07/2012 07:49:58 PM 863 Views
I think any organisation should have the right to choose who represents them - 25/07/2012 11:20:36 PM 888 Views
Well, but that's not the end of it. - 26/07/2012 12:12:09 AM 956 Views
It is for me - 26/07/2012 12:26:25 AM 868 Views
So...conformity ahead? *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:40:03 AM 418 Views
Is that all that happened? - 25/07/2012 11:28:17 PM 834 Views
That and some pro-Golden Dawn statements. - 26/07/2012 12:14:25 AM 1024 Views
For me it is more than enough - 26/07/2012 12:32:35 AM 803 Views
It's not what happened to her that I typically waver on. - 27/07/2012 03:08:45 PM 840 Views
It's not a matter of freedom of expression - 26/07/2012 09:49:59 PM 1031 Views
This. *NM* - 26/07/2012 10:26:37 PM 437 Views
I oppose censorship even if it is not comng from the government - 26/07/2012 10:16:30 PM 873 Views
How is it censorship? - 27/07/2012 02:33:30 AM 967 Views
try looking up the word censorship and ask yourself would their actions supress speech - 27/07/2012 02:59:11 AM 1092 Views
I know the definition thank you. How exactly was her communication suppressed? - 27/07/2012 05:54:39 PM 994 Views
you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression - 27/07/2012 06:20:15 PM 1110 Views
Well - 27/07/2012 07:20:27 PM 870 Views
Where did she ever imply she wanted them to be bitten? *NM* - 27/07/2012 08:03:05 PM 502 Views
Hello earth.... "food from home". - 27/07/2012 08:26:15 PM 838 Views
OK I repeat my question: Where did she she WANTED them to be bit? - 30/07/2012 09:07:01 PM 1158 Views
Um, she referred to them as food? - 27/07/2012 08:38:22 PM 912 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* - 30/07/2012 09:09:18 PM 555 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* - 30/07/2012 09:09:27 PM 465 Views
I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten. - 27/07/2012 09:02:05 PM 913 Views
It was insensitive at best - 30/07/2012 09:25:06 PM 1430 Views
One problem. - 27/07/2012 04:54:52 AM 873 Views
Exactly - 27/07/2012 12:05:14 PM 875 Views
I know you said it but do you actually believe it? - 27/07/2012 01:56:35 PM 860 Views
It's a good question, but yes, I do. - 27/07/2012 02:42:28 PM 900 Views
Are going to ban everyone and everyone country who says something about anyone else? - 27/07/2012 04:47:51 PM 810 Views
Yes, that is clearly exactly what I said. - 27/07/2012 05:10:37 PM 855 Views
i have a feeling you are being influenced by that pic they run with all the articles about her? - 27/07/2012 02:14:13 PM 867 Views
Surely you don't think... - 27/07/2012 02:57:47 PM 774 Views
Heh. - 27/07/2012 05:53:07 PM 1026 Views
Typo? There are limits to our credulity... or to mine, anyway. - 27/07/2012 06:27:44 PM 879 Views
Looks like Voula Papachristou agrees with Tom - 27/07/2012 07:09:30 PM 897 Views
Quite understandable. But so's the Greek OC's decision. - 27/07/2012 07:11:31 PM 911 Views
And now a Swiss footabller has gone as well - 30/07/2012 08:22:45 PM 910 Views
That's just poor sportsmanship. *NM* - 30/07/2012 08:53:53 PM 566 Views
And an Australian athlete has been sent home now - 04/08/2012 10:12:12 AM 736 Views

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