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This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating... Legolas Send a noteboard - 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM
Not the same, because you are arbitrarily excluding groups due to invalid criteria. The fact that gay people don't want to marry the opposite sex does not mean they have the right to a compensatory privilege. That's like saying that since I choose not to avail myself of the privilege of driving a motor vehicle, I may instead choose to utilize the public roads in a different manner that will impede the ability of licensed drivers to use them for their proper function, such as by pushing a wheelbarrow down the fast lane of a major highway. You can make all specious arguments you want about my right to move goods by the fastest route available, or how environmentally superior my mode of transport is, but it does not change the fact that I am abusing something in an illegal manner and my desire to use a public institution in my own way does not grant me the right to do so.

The key part of your analogy, as I'm sure you'll agree, lies in the "impede the ability of licensed drivers to use them for their proper function" aspect. It's fairly pointless to make the analogy if you're going to skirt around the key issue of how, exactly, gay marriage "impedes the ability of heterosexual people to use marriage for its proper function". Because unless you can come up with some solid arguments proving that it does - and I for one am inclined to say you can't - the whole thing falls flat on its face.
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For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy? - 20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM 1542 Views
Legal rights. - 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM 938 Views
It almost sounds like you are saying... - 20/10/2012 12:31:40 AM 921 Views
That is what I'm saying it. - 20/10/2012 01:07:50 AM 910 Views
Technically, privileges, not rights. - 20/10/2012 04:16:45 AM 899 Views
Sure - 20/10/2012 12:35:53 AM 812 Views
All for it... For adults over the age of 18. *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:18:04 AM 548 Views
What about it? - 20/10/2012 01:21:17 AM 869 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:51:25 AM 582 Views
+2 *NM* - 20/10/2012 11:18:39 AM 454 Views
should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM 455 Views
poly people? - 20/10/2012 12:44:01 PM 930 Views
Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM 441 Views
That's a huge chunk of what government does. - 20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM 885 Views
That's not what I'm saying - 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM 888 Views
So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard! - 21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM 848 Views
Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence.. - 20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM 907 Views
Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid. - 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM 825 Views
The more fool you. - 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM 909 Views
Ha! Point. *NM* - 20/10/2012 05:40:34 AM 717 Views
Marriage is always a choice, whatever the motive(s.) - 22/10/2012 04:00:40 PM 862 Views
I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two. - 20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM 923 Views
The only problem with that is that it was established with a heterosexist assumption - 21/10/2012 06:33:32 AM 911 Views
From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant - 21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM 1008 Views
How would you argue for putting it in the same category as race? - 21/10/2012 04:28:12 PM 914 Views
I wouldn't put it in exactly the same category. - 21/10/2012 08:43:51 PM 926 Views
This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating... - 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM 873 Views
That limitation is still prejudicial and somewhat arbitrary. - 22/10/2012 04:25:25 PM 1107 Views
I got no opinion on it. - 20/10/2012 12:51:43 PM 969 Views
The idea of a group marriage makes me uncomfortable - 20/10/2012 04:19:48 PM 821 Views
As long as it is equitable - 20/10/2012 05:55:57 PM 832 Views
The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway - 21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM 900 Views
Indeed - 21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM 960 Views
I don't give a damn what you call it. That's your business. - 21/10/2012 06:17:40 AM 1242 Views
And so? - 21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM 869 Views
Re: And so? - 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM 1047 Views
Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none. - 22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM 927 Views
You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed. - 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM 836 Views
Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government. - 23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM 770 Views
Much less force, yes. - 23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM 765 Views
The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." - 23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM 864 Views
+1 *NM* - 23/10/2012 07:36:46 PM 389 Views
No the analogy is not exact, nor legally the same... - 23/10/2012 07:33:25 PM 753 Views
Analogy is not equality, only similarity. - 24/10/2012 04:37:29 PM 980 Views
We aren't asking for something better or different. - 23/10/2012 04:27:04 PM 822 Views
yeah, it is very circular. - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 884 Views

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