This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating...
Legolas Send a noteboard - 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM
Not the same, because you are arbitrarily excluding groups due to invalid criteria. The fact that gay people don't want to marry the opposite sex does not mean they have the right to a compensatory privilege. That's like saying that since I choose not to avail myself of the privilege of driving a motor vehicle, I may instead choose to utilize the public roads in a different manner that will impede the ability of licensed drivers to use them for their proper function, such as by pushing a wheelbarrow down the fast lane of a major highway. You can make all specious arguments you want about my right to move goods by the fastest route available, or how environmentally superior my mode of transport is, but it does not change the fact that I am abusing something in an illegal manner and my desire to use a public institution in my own way does not grant me the right to do so.
The key part of your analogy, as I'm sure you'll agree, lies in the "impede the ability of licensed drivers to use them for their proper function" aspect. It's fairly pointless to make the analogy if you're going to skirt around the key issue of how, exactly, gay marriage "impedes the ability of heterosexual people to use marriage for its proper function". Because unless you can come up with some solid arguments proving that it does - and I for one am inclined to say you can't - the whole thing falls flat on its face.
For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy?
- 20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM
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Legal rights.
- 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM
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should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM*
- 20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM
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Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM*
- 20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM
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That's a huge chunk of what government does.
- 20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM
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That's not what I'm saying
- 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM
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So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard!
- 21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM
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Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence..
- 20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM
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Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid.
- 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM
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The more fool you.
- 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM
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This, and legal recognition of it, is precisely why marriage has become an Equal Protection issue.
- 22/10/2012 03:40:01 PM
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Because they are both violations of the paradigm of genuine marriage. Like it or not.
- 21/10/2012 05:49:32 AM
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I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two.
- 20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM
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The only problem with that is that it was established with a heterosexist assumption
- 21/10/2012 06:33:32 AM
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From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant
- 21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM
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This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating...
- 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM
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Yes, but only if its equal. Multi-people relationships should be more acceptable by society.
- 20/10/2012 05:15:24 AM
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"Polygamy" is the all-inclusive term; whether or not he meant it, he said it.
- 22/10/2012 04:31:09 PM
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I support autogamy in addition to various forms of exogenic relationships
- 20/10/2012 05:49:07 AM
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Have you seen the Glee episode where Sue Sylvester conducts a marriage of herself to herself? *NM*
- 20/10/2012 09:50:32 AM
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I am fine with it if all existing parties to the marriage consent to each addition.
- 20/10/2012 10:10:19 AM
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The case for polygamy has really weakened rather than strenghtened, you might say.
- 20/10/2012 03:53:34 PM
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I have no problem with it, but as Amy says, it's not really relevant. *NM*
- 20/10/2012 05:40:50 PM
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Legalize polygamy and create a familymaking process, but don't cover polygamy under marriage.
- 20/10/2012 10:14:58 PM
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The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway
- 21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM
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Indeed
- 21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM
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I don't give a damn what you call it. That's your business.
- 21/10/2012 06:17:40 AM
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And so?
- 21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM
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Re: And so?
- 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM
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So can we call it garriage, give the same legal effect and call it good? *NM*
- 22/10/2012 03:28:33 AM
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According to your argument we could afford gay couples the same legal privileges...
- 22/10/2012 03:20:17 AM
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"...separate educational facilities are inherently unequal."
- 22/10/2012 04:45:31 PM
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That may well be the ideal solution. And also the most ironically amusing in how it would fail.
- 22/10/2012 07:35:05 PM
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We already went there and did that in '04, and yes, it was funny as f--k.
- 22/10/2012 09:51:49 PM
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Agreed in principle, but custody/cohabitation/assets go well beyond name change.
- 22/10/2012 04:37:09 PM
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This is the sort of thing that *needs* to be about principle
- 23/10/2012 04:54:10 AM
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Parental, property and other rights need government protection, and thus government involvement.
- 23/10/2012 05:14:37 AM
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Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none.
- 22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM
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You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed.
- 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM
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Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government.
- 23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM
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Much less force, yes.
- 23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM
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The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business."
- 23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM
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Re: The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business."
- 23/10/2012 07:15:17 PM
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Like you said: By referring to "all invididuals" (or, better, "persons" or "citizens.")
- 24/10/2012 04:14:55 PM
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But we know very well that it doesn't have dire commercial consequences.
- 25/10/2012 07:17:55 PM
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I have several friends who practice polyamory, if they wanted to marry I would support it. *NM*
- 24/10/2012 06:47:58 PM
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