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This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating... Legolas Send a noteboard - 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM
Not the same, because you are arbitrarily excluding groups due to invalid criteria. The fact that gay people don't want to marry the opposite sex does not mean they have the right to a compensatory privilege. That's like saying that since I choose not to avail myself of the privilege of driving a motor vehicle, I may instead choose to utilize the public roads in a different manner that will impede the ability of licensed drivers to use them for their proper function, such as by pushing a wheelbarrow down the fast lane of a major highway. You can make all specious arguments you want about my right to move goods by the fastest route available, or how environmentally superior my mode of transport is, but it does not change the fact that I am abusing something in an illegal manner and my desire to use a public institution in my own way does not grant me the right to do so.

The key part of your analogy, as I'm sure you'll agree, lies in the "impede the ability of licensed drivers to use them for their proper function" aspect. It's fairly pointless to make the analogy if you're going to skirt around the key issue of how, exactly, gay marriage "impedes the ability of heterosexual people to use marriage for its proper function". Because unless you can come up with some solid arguments proving that it does - and I for one am inclined to say you can't - the whole thing falls flat on its face.
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For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy? - 20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM 1482 Views
Legal rights. - 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM 875 Views
It almost sounds like you are saying... - 20/10/2012 12:31:40 AM 855 Views
That is what I'm saying it. - 20/10/2012 01:07:50 AM 839 Views
Technically, privileges, not rights. - 20/10/2012 04:16:45 AM 835 Views
Sure - 20/10/2012 12:35:53 AM 765 Views
All for it... For adults over the age of 18. *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:18:04 AM 520 Views
What about it? - 20/10/2012 01:21:17 AM 826 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:51:25 AM 557 Views
+2 *NM* - 20/10/2012 11:18:39 AM 425 Views
should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM 426 Views
poly people? - 20/10/2012 12:44:01 PM 870 Views
Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM 413 Views
That's a huge chunk of what government does. - 20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM 810 Views
That's not what I'm saying - 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM 827 Views
So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard! - 21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM 774 Views
Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence.. - 20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM 847 Views
Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid. - 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM 767 Views
The more fool you. - 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM 866 Views
Ha! Point. *NM* - 20/10/2012 05:40:34 AM 694 Views
Marriage is always a choice, whatever the motive(s.) - 22/10/2012 04:00:40 PM 804 Views
I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two. - 20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM 862 Views
The only problem with that is that it was established with a heterosexist assumption - 21/10/2012 06:33:32 AM 823 Views
From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant - 21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM 930 Views
How would you argue for putting it in the same category as race? - 21/10/2012 04:28:12 PM 853 Views
I wouldn't put it in exactly the same category. - 21/10/2012 08:43:51 PM 886 Views
This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating... - 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM 818 Views
That limitation is still prejudicial and somewhat arbitrary. - 22/10/2012 04:25:25 PM 1024 Views
I got no opinion on it. - 20/10/2012 12:51:43 PM 893 Views
The idea of a group marriage makes me uncomfortable - 20/10/2012 04:19:48 PM 776 Views
As long as it is equitable - 20/10/2012 05:55:57 PM 769 Views
The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway - 21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM 839 Views
Indeed - 21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM 904 Views
I don't give a damn what you call it. That's your business. - 21/10/2012 06:17:40 AM 1177 Views
And so? - 21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM 803 Views
Re: And so? - 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM 986 Views
Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none. - 22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM 861 Views
You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed. - 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM 779 Views
Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government. - 23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM 712 Views
Much less force, yes. - 23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM 721 Views
The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." - 23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM 790 Views
+1 *NM* - 23/10/2012 07:36:46 PM 359 Views
No the analogy is not exact, nor legally the same... - 23/10/2012 07:33:25 PM 690 Views
Analogy is not equality, only similarity. - 24/10/2012 04:37:29 PM 894 Views
We aren't asking for something better or different. - 23/10/2012 04:27:04 PM 778 Views
yeah, it is very circular. - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 827 Views

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