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It's a circle of violence. Both sides are the villian. MrFarstrider Send a noteboard - 31/07/2014 03:50:52 AM

There isn't a beginning like you make it out to be. It's a chicken and egg argument. One does something, the other reacts, the other reacts to that, ad infinitum. The best thing for all third parties (USA, EU, etc) to do is remove themselves from enabling the evil on both sides and try their best to negotiate peace.

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Those morons in Gaza (i.e., Hamas) are at it again - Anonymous2000 - 18/07/2014 04:02:57 PM 1267 Views
If by awesome you mean execrable, then yes, you're right. Legolas - 18/07/2014 11:45:53 PM 753 Views
Sounds like someone doesn't like jews! Anonymous2000 - 19/07/2014 04:24:41 AM 694 Views
It's funny you should say that. Legolas - 19/07/2014 09:36:57 AM 769 Views
your criticism would be better applied to Palestine supporters random thoughts - 19/07/2014 11:50:37 AM 653 Views
+1 - Besides muslim countries, Europe in general is the last bastion of anti-semitism Anonymous2000 - 19/07/2014 01:12:36 PM 826 Views
Except for the US. And Russia. So pretty much every place that HAS a Jewish population. Joel - 23/07/2014 02:35:18 AM 684 Views
My criticism IS also applied to Palestine supporters. It's not an either/or deal. Legolas - 19/07/2014 09:03:51 PM 708 Views
Agreed on that much, certainly. Joel - 23/07/2014 03:05:22 AM 817 Views
Well, look who's back in the game! Legolas - 23/07/2014 07:44:45 PM 940 Views
Haltingly.... Joel - 07/08/2014 03:41:06 AM 743 Views
The only good thing about ancient interminable wars is that--more-- Joel - 13/06/2015 11:40:48 PM 628 Views
Only one necro post. What have you done with the real Joel? random thoughts - 14/06/2015 02:36:57 AM 674 Views
Well, it HAS been a year; had I not promised, I would not have responded at all after that long Joel - 14/06/2015 03:02:58 AM 697 Views
Oh lord. Legolas - 22/06/2015 10:08:22 PM 676 Views
"'Dialing for Dollars' is looking for me" Joel - 24/06/2015 04:48:51 AM 750 Views
At the risk of prompting another long ramble, I've no idea what that reference is to. Legolas - 24/06/2015 10:39:42 PM 621 Views
"Oh, Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz?!" Joel - 26/06/2015 12:41:48 PM 629 Views
I'm going to try to shorten and summarize this a bit... Legolas - 28/06/2015 11:21:28 PM 950 Views
It sounds like our only practical point of disagreement is Gazas status Joel - 29/06/2015 12:31:11 AM 673 Views
Pretty much, though I have a few factual quibbles with this post again. So much for shortening. Legolas - 29/06/2015 08:46:35 PM 666 Views
Shortening is for bakers Joel - 30/06/2015 10:59:59 AM 761 Views
I couldn't help but overhear... AgentApple - 19/07/2014 01:13:01 PM 712 Views
Good, I was hoping you'd drop by! Legolas - 19/07/2014 08:33:44 PM 871 Views
I strongly beg to differ with your position re: Hamas Tom - 26/07/2014 04:25:54 PM 627 Views
Sorry, I don't see that. Legolas - 26/07/2014 08:57:08 PM 722 Views
I guess if you believe the lies of Hamas your position makes sense. Tom - 27/07/2014 03:20:03 PM 658 Views
+1 AgentApple - 27/07/2014 04:00:05 PM 731 Views
I certainly don't believe everything they say, no. Legolas - 27/07/2014 06:43:51 PM 733 Views
As so often the Economist is the voice of common sense: Legolas - 29/07/2014 05:44:59 PM 778 Views
The Economist is the voice of London finance. Tom - 03/08/2014 03:22:47 AM 587 Views
That bias works out well for the purpose of finding pragmatic solutions for conflicts, though. Legolas - 03/08/2014 05:51:39 PM 780 Views
Or for creating casuist arguments in order to take a side based on self-interest... Tom - 05/08/2014 09:55:58 PM 671 Views
Honestly? Do you seriously believe that is the real reason why they wrote that? *NM* Legolas - 06/08/2014 09:17:17 PM 312 Views
the carrot and stick is somewhat apt, although israel should have given way more carrots to date moondog - 22/07/2014 08:57:13 PM 758 Views
So Israel should back the least radical Palestinian faction & construct Palestinian infrastructure? Joel - 23/07/2014 04:51:19 AM 719 Views
yes moondog - 23/07/2014 05:04:58 PM 867 Views
I pretty much agree with everything you said. AgentApple - 24/07/2014 09:46:22 AM 839 Views
Israel is 100% right to kill children playing soccer on the beach? you have reached a new low... *NM* moondog - 22/07/2014 08:59:50 PM 337 Views
No less than Hamas is 100% right to GET them killed hiding behind them Joel - 23/07/2014 04:38:55 AM 754 Views
these kids were playing soccer with *JOURNALISTS* they were not being used as human shields moondog - 23/07/2014 04:59:05 PM 733 Views
Why do you hate America? Joel - 23/07/2014 02:29:24 AM 717 Views
Bottom line - stop lobbing missles into Israel and the problem is solved. Anonymous2000 - 28/07/2014 03:35:46 AM 654 Views
It's a circle of violence. Both sides are the villian. MrFarstrider - 31/07/2014 03:50:52 AM 753 Views
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