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And then what will happen after that? Legolas Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM
Suppose he does remain a lame duck president. I'm assuming that your post means you're willing to pay three years of little action on the important issues facing the US as the price for Obama not passing legislation you disagree with. But what after 2012? Do you really think suddenly the next president will be that much better and that much more able to pass good legislation, or that much more capable to tackle the problems that will only have grown worse by then?

I can see the positive effects this defeat can have in terms of forcing Obama to be more bipartisan, ignoring the negative effects for a moment. But I cannot see how him being a lame duck president for the rest of his term is a good thing in any way, among other reasons because it would imply no improvement and more likely a worsening in the current polarization.
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BROWN WINS! Let's celebrate the end of ObamaCare!!! - 20/01/2010 02:20:22 AM 1392 Views
My vote put him over the top!!!! *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:22:50 AM 403 Views
Wait...you only voted once? - 20/01/2010 02:24:42 AM 648 Views
I had planned to post a fake-news joke post earlier. - 20/01/2010 02:27:14 AM 785 Views
The joke is even less funny when written. - 20/01/2010 02:51:18 PM 637 Views
*dances with you* - 20/01/2010 02:24:17 AM 650 Views
Because of Brown or because of dancing with me? *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:25:24 AM 405 Views
Its hard to pick. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:27:31 AM 344 Views
Don't jinx it - 20/01/2010 02:27:25 AM 765 Views
It's a win-win situation as far as I'm concerned. - 20/01/2010 02:33:16 AM 680 Views
God I love reading the shit at DailyKos right now. - 20/01/2010 02:45:23 AM 738 Views
Actually, there is a chance they can use reconiliation to pass it. I hope not. - 20/01/2010 02:46:47 AM 767 Views
If they did that, they'd be signing their own resignations. - 20/01/2010 02:54:56 AM 686 Views
Probably so but Pelosi did bring it up a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:05:17 AM 673 Views
Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:18:15 AM 692 Views
Re: Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:48:32 AM 661 Views
They can, theoretically. - 20/01/2010 12:30:42 PM 658 Views
*does a cartwheel* - 20/01/2010 03:07:00 AM 770 Views
If this isn't a wake up call to the democratic party... - 20/01/2010 03:39:36 AM 694 Views
I guess it depends on the wake up call's message. - 20/01/2010 03:45:38 AM 716 Views
indeed - 20/01/2010 03:51:39 AM 735 Views
Seriously?? - 20/01/2010 03:54:56 AM 783 Views
The Democrats have the arrogance to say "people don't understand the Health Care Bill". - 20/01/2010 03:57:17 AM 729 Views
agreed... *NM* - 20/01/2010 05:14:04 AM 459 Views
That is fucking nuts. *NM* - 20/01/2010 04:06:48 AM 444 Views
Celebrate good times come on! - 20/01/2010 03:53:01 AM 657 Views
I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:34:42 AM 817 Views
Re: I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:52:16 AM 700 Views
If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 05:47:04 AM 643 Views
Re: If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 06:12:34 AM 785 Views
Do you honestly think this bill would help you? - 20/01/2010 02:21:02 PM 703 Views
just wondering.... - 21/01/2010 01:56:05 AM 708 Views
Well lucky you - 21/01/2010 09:09:16 PM 761 Views
I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 09:07:09 AM 974 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 12:43:39 PM 817 Views
That would be so massive a reform that it would never ever pass. - 20/01/2010 12:47:23 PM 742 Views
I think "tries" is the key word here. - 20/01/2010 07:44:53 PM 702 Views
Yeah, that's true. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:05:15 PM 373 Views
I think.... - 20/01/2010 12:52:07 PM 739 Views
There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 02:13:58 PM 696 Views
That was a really good response. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:54:36 PM 492 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 03:02:48 PM 739 Views
There is the overtreatment aspect as well, of course. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:46:45 PM 377 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 05:01:31 PM 723 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 11:00:11 PM 908 Views
I think your misunderstanding comes from one concept you mention. - 20/01/2010 04:57:27 PM 779 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 07:56:02 PM 693 Views
*celebrates the beginning of the downfall of the USA* *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:39:19 PM 371 Views
Want some sugar with those grapes? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:41:33 PM 362 Views
Beginning? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:47:51 PM 337 Views
Right...you just keep thinking that... *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:41 PM 317 Views
The beginning!? Ha! *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:57 PM 327 Views
This is excellent. I am happy. - 20/01/2010 01:50:22 PM 680 Views
I'm not really familiar with Coakley or Brown - 20/01/2010 02:22:51 PM 719 Views
"not the gay things" XD *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:00 PM 349 Views
I do hope this doesn't turn Obama into a lame duck. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:07:34 PM 386 Views
Frankly, I hope it does. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:11 PM 350 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:23:17 PM 343 Views
And then what will happen after that? - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM 828 Views
It would mean, effectively, that Congress controls the domestic agenda and Hillary foreign affairs. - 20/01/2010 10:52:24 PM 531 Views
That's kind of ironic... - 20/01/2010 11:15:05 PM 841 Views
And condemn more people to untimely deaths? - 20/01/2010 02:33:08 PM 677 Views
Pity, that there is no government sanctioned murder of the stupid. - 20/01/2010 02:52:52 PM 612 Views
I think the technical term is "dumbicide". - 20/01/2010 03:00:13 PM 722 Views
Don't the Darwin Awards help with that? *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:50:37 PM 367 Views
Oh dear. - 20/01/2010 07:42:18 PM 762 Views
Bah! - 20/01/2010 07:45:48 PM 652 Views
The elderly, eh? Too bad we don't have a program for that. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:01:40 PM 407 Views
They had their whole lives to save up! F*** 'em. *NM* - 22/01/2010 01:12:20 PM 571 Views
I thought it was time for another such celebration... - 20/01/2010 03:35:28 PM 732 Views
That thud you heard was the lid dropping on the coffin - 20/01/2010 03:49:21 PM 733 Views
True, but it is now finally DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 21/01/2010 01:08:12 AM 720 Views
I keep thinking this thread title says, "BROWNS WIN!" - 21/01/2010 02:21:24 PM 649 Views
Lack of Health Care Reform means American Wage Stagnation - 21/01/2010 06:38:11 PM 838 Views

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