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And then what will happen after that? Legolas Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM
Suppose he does remain a lame duck president. I'm assuming that your post means you're willing to pay three years of little action on the important issues facing the US as the price for Obama not passing legislation you disagree with. But what after 2012? Do you really think suddenly the next president will be that much better and that much more able to pass good legislation, or that much more capable to tackle the problems that will only have grown worse by then?

I can see the positive effects this defeat can have in terms of forcing Obama to be more bipartisan, ignoring the negative effects for a moment. But I cannot see how him being a lame duck president for the rest of his term is a good thing in any way, among other reasons because it would imply no improvement and more likely a worsening in the current polarization.
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BROWN WINS! Let's celebrate the end of ObamaCare!!! - 20/01/2010 02:20:22 AM 1754 Views
My vote put him over the top!!!! *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:22:50 AM 582 Views
Wait...you only voted once? - 20/01/2010 02:24:42 AM 992 Views
I had planned to post a fake-news joke post earlier. - 20/01/2010 02:27:14 AM 1131 Views
The joke is even less funny when written. - 20/01/2010 02:51:18 PM 970 Views
*dances with you* - 20/01/2010 02:24:17 AM 999 Views
Because of Brown or because of dancing with me? *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:25:24 AM 598 Views
Its hard to pick. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:27:31 AM 531 Views
Don't jinx it - 20/01/2010 02:27:25 AM 1098 Views
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i predict that political predictions are not always so cut and dried - 21/01/2010 01:50:23 AM 1043 Views
God I love reading the shit at DailyKos right now. - 20/01/2010 02:45:23 AM 1064 Views
Actually, there is a chance they can use reconiliation to pass it. I hope not. - 20/01/2010 02:46:47 AM 1124 Views
If they did that, they'd be signing their own resignations. - 20/01/2010 02:54:56 AM 1018 Views
Probably so but Pelosi did bring it up a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:05:17 AM 1023 Views
Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:18:15 AM 1008 Views
Re: Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:48:32 AM 996 Views
They can, theoretically. - 20/01/2010 12:30:42 PM 994 Views
*does a cartwheel* - 20/01/2010 03:07:00 AM 1121 Views
If this isn't a wake up call to the democratic party... - 20/01/2010 03:39:36 AM 1046 Views
I guess it depends on the wake up call's message. - 20/01/2010 03:45:38 AM 1016 Views
indeed - 20/01/2010 03:51:39 AM 1084 Views
Seriously?? - 20/01/2010 03:54:56 AM 1122 Views
The Democrats have the arrogance to say "people don't understand the Health Care Bill". - 20/01/2010 03:57:17 AM 1075 Views
agreed... *NM* - 20/01/2010 05:14:04 AM 655 Views
That is fucking nuts. *NM* - 20/01/2010 04:06:48 AM 612 Views
Celebrate good times come on! - 20/01/2010 03:53:01 AM 979 Views
I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:34:42 AM 1149 Views
Re: I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:52:16 AM 1039 Views
If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 05:47:04 AM 983 Views
Re: If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 06:12:34 AM 1123 Views
Do you honestly think this bill would help you? - 20/01/2010 02:21:02 PM 1040 Views
just wondering.... - 21/01/2010 01:56:05 AM 1045 Views
Well lucky you - 21/01/2010 09:09:16 PM 1066 Views
I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 09:07:09 AM 1480 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 12:43:39 PM 1166 Views
That would be so massive a reform that it would never ever pass. - 20/01/2010 12:47:23 PM 1070 Views
I think "tries" is the key word here. - 20/01/2010 07:44:53 PM 1053 Views
Yeah, that's true. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:05:15 PM 564 Views
I think.... - 20/01/2010 12:52:07 PM 1096 Views
There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 02:13:58 PM 1047 Views
That was a really good response. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:54:36 PM 688 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 03:02:48 PM 1058 Views
There is the overtreatment aspect as well, of course. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:46:45 PM 564 Views
Groaning under illegal immigrants? - 20/01/2010 03:38:23 PM 1131 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 05:01:31 PM 1090 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 11:00:11 PM 1271 Views
I think your misunderstanding comes from one concept you mention. - 20/01/2010 04:57:27 PM 1131 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 07:56:02 PM 1042 Views
*celebrates the beginning of the downfall of the USA* *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:39:19 PM 557 Views
Want some sugar with those grapes? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:41:33 PM 538 Views
Beginning? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:47:51 PM 508 Views
Right...you just keep thinking that... *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:41 PM 518 Views
The beginning!? Ha! *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:57 PM 516 Views
This is excellent. I am happy. - 20/01/2010 01:50:22 PM 1024 Views
I'm not really familiar with Coakley or Brown - 20/01/2010 02:22:51 PM 1060 Views
"not the gay things" XD *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:00 PM 529 Views
I do hope this doesn't turn Obama into a lame duck. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:07:34 PM 565 Views
Frankly, I hope it does. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:11 PM 548 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:23:17 PM 545 Views
And then what will happen after that? - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM 1207 Views
It would mean, effectively, that Congress controls the domestic agenda and Hillary foreign affairs. - 20/01/2010 10:52:24 PM 870 Views
That's kind of ironic... - 20/01/2010 11:15:05 PM 1196 Views
And condemn more people to untimely deaths? - 20/01/2010 02:33:08 PM 1053 Views
Pity, that there is no government sanctioned murder of the stupid. - 20/01/2010 02:52:52 PM 944 Views
I think the technical term is "dumbicide". - 20/01/2010 03:00:13 PM 1051 Views
Don't the Darwin Awards help with that? *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:50:37 PM 552 Views
Oh dear. - 20/01/2010 07:42:18 PM 1098 Views
Bah! - 20/01/2010 07:45:48 PM 998 Views
The elderly, eh? Too bad we don't have a program for that. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:01:40 PM 598 Views
They had their whole lives to save up! F*** 'em. *NM* - 22/01/2010 01:12:20 PM 755 Views
I thought it was time for another such celebration... - 20/01/2010 03:35:28 PM 1067 Views
That thud you heard was the lid dropping on the coffin - 20/01/2010 03:49:21 PM 1075 Views
True, but it is now finally DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 21/01/2010 01:08:12 AM 1070 Views
I keep thinking this thread title says, "BROWNS WIN!" - 21/01/2010 02:21:24 PM 989 Views
Lack of Health Care Reform means American Wage Stagnation - 21/01/2010 06:38:11 PM 1190 Views

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