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How much more can we really tax the wealthy?? Brian Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM
I mean between income taxes, social security, and medicare they pay out nearly 1/2 of their income to the government each year.

Yeah, that number may drop some after credits and other programs they can take advantage of, but at some point you just can't raise taxes any further.

The reality (in my mind at least) is that our government is an extremely wasteful entity. Nearly every program they run is rife with corruption, overspending, pocket stuffing, and other rubbish that doesn't need to be there.
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For Europeans who don't understand why Americans are against ObamaCare Tom - 03/09/2009 04:24:35 AM 1318 Views
I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. " Joel - 03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 762 Views
The US will never work with socialism. Tom - 03/09/2009 04:40:21 AM 833 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. Joel - 03/09/2009 04:58:47 AM 830 Views
I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Brian - 03/09/2009 05:04:34 AM 746 Views
It's advanced beyond what it was during the Revolution, I think. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:18:22 AM 788 Views
I would say it's grown with the government Brian - 03/09/2009 05:23:52 AM 771 Views
The key is that government shouldn't be heavily involved in personal lives. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:58:39 AM 800 Views
Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM 717 Views
If I lived in France I wouldn't trust the Government either. Brian - 04/09/2009 03:44:55 AM 780 Views
*laughs* the point is taken. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:24:07 AM 504 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:28:24 AM 873 Views
How much more can we really tax the wealthy?? Brian - 03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM 699 Views
Sadly, I think going back to the Clinton rates would help Tom - 03/09/2009 04:42:54 AM 653 Views
I'm ok with that....not super excited....but ok with it Brian - 03/09/2009 04:57:32 AM 674 Views
A lot; before Reagans "reforms" we already taxed them less than any other industrialized state did. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:06:00 AM 793 Views
I'm in the lower-middle class tax bracket Brian - 03/09/2009 05:13:39 AM 717 Views
It's both, IMHO. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:29:41 AM 649 Views
I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:19:08 AM 653 Views
Re: I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... Joel - 03/09/2009 05:40:32 AM 742 Views
Nice non-answer answer..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:52:04 AM 749 Views
You want detailed answers that require detailed data I don't have. Joel - 03/09/2009 06:06:55 AM 805 Views
Here are some facts and analyses..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:40:22 PM 873 Views
The Heritage Foundation, huh? Joel - 03/09/2009 03:01:17 PM 881 Views
The non-working wealthy? Please quantify..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:31:58 PM 831 Views
So you accept the CBOs assessment the House healthcare bill will be $1 trillion over the next decade Joel - 04/09/2009 03:02:13 AM 741 Views
Wow, that was one of the dumbest posts I have ever read..... trzaska2000 - 05/09/2009 05:42:45 AM 779 Views
So you're saying you DON'T proofread...? Joel - 05/09/2009 05:59:49 AM 899 Views
Paris Hilton? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:43:19 AM 739 Views
You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:15:55 AM 840 Views
Re: You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:59:21 AM 931 Views
Less than 200 people were said to be US persons with Swiss accounts Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:16:24 AM 729 Views
And yet account for many millions of dollars; what does that say...? Joel - 04/09/2009 04:21:57 AM 724 Views
It's statistically insignificant and your hyperbole is reminiscent of screaming guests on CNN. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:07:31 PM 662 Views
Well, look at this way: Joel - 04/09/2009 02:24:03 PM 787 Views
That's not a solution. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:39:12 AM 797 Views
The Soviets weren't socialist, or even communist, so it's a false comparison. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:09:06 AM 736 Views
Okay, now you've just gone into Kool-aid drinking territory. Сталин - 05/09/2009 04:32:07 AM 860 Views
Communist THEORY is predicated on democratic participation at every level,totally absent in the USSR Joel - 05/09/2009 04:55:00 AM 974 Views
FINALLY!!! Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:22:53 AM 766 Views
Ever heard of the 20-80 rule? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:28:54 AM 650 Views
Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:41:35 AM 970 Views
Re: Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:09:30 AM 772 Views
Top earners? Please define.....what income and how much more? *NM* trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:52:25 AM 504 Views
That would be open to definition, and should change with inflation. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:13:02 AM 903 Views
What is your justification for taking over 50% of anyone's income? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:28:22 AM 858 Views
That's a good example of why I say the rate has to be set to cost of living. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:50:16 AM 881 Views
Still no comment on the fact that 40% of Americans don't pay any income taxes? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:32:12 PM 789 Views
To what 40% do you refer? Joel - 03/09/2009 02:42:55 PM 650 Views
Dude, you are not making this easy..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:38:01 PM 689 Views
No one "gets money from the IRS. " Joel - 04/09/2009 02:55:02 AM 696 Views
Actually with EIC you can get money back that you never paid in. Brian - 04/09/2009 02:56:43 AM 690 Views
It MIGHT be possible with the EIC, but in practice few people get more than they paid. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:43:36 AM 743 Views
I don't know, I've known plenty of people that have gotten more back than they paid in Brian - 04/09/2009 03:46:29 AM 816 Views
A neat trick then. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:09:58 AM 818 Views
To be fair Brian - 04/09/2009 04:50:20 AM 754 Views
Ah, gotcha. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:53:58 AM 766 Views
Yet another example of your ignorance on tax policy. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:19:39 AM 644 Views
The word I notice is "welfare" Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:57:01 AM 769 Views
I wouldn't say that's what it means.... Brian - 04/09/2009 04:02:40 AM 757 Views
It's what welfare means to me... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:32:17 AM 765 Views
I was just talking about EIC as a form of welfare, not welfare welfare. *NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 04:45:13 AM 438 Views
yes, I get that now. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:02:53 AM 422 Views
*NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 05:14:01 AM 424 Views
Not necessarily Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:11:41 AM 709 Views
*shrugs* I have a soft heart. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:30:52 AM 429 Views
It's a credit for people who file a return on income that's been taxed. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:19:57 AM 695 Views
It is only for the WORKING poor, yes. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:12:55 PM 682 Views
Mean it may be, but hardly illegal. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:31:16 PM 708 Views
How does the business benefit? Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:54:27 PM 708 Views
I didn't realize you meant literal withholding. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:03:32 AM 726 Views
That's a no-no, Joel AgentOrange - 03/09/2009 07:32:03 AM 692 Views
Europe impresses me for one simple reason: Joel - 03/09/2009 09:21:28 AM 747 Views
No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM* Brian - 03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM 331 Views
If that scares you, check this out! trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:48:56 AM 850 Views
Excellent post - the US government is not capable of running HC..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:40:19 AM 637 Views
There is one thing the government did right Tom - 03/09/2009 04:41:36 AM 750 Views
The bailout, some of it, was necessary..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:51:03 AM 750 Views
I still think it was too one sided. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:21:45 AM 779 Views
It depends on your level of cynicism nossy - 03/09/2009 05:38:53 AM 805 Views
when have they ever cut the fat? random thoughts - 03/09/2009 08:35:36 PM 733 Views
Contrary to popular belief, they are quite good at it nossy - 03/09/2009 09:05:15 PM 755 Views
Well there is only one catch *NM* random thoughts - 03/09/2009 10:56:00 PM 423 Views
This doesn't make sense to me. Tim - 03/09/2009 08:33:18 AM 744 Views
The key phrase is "should be. " Joel - 03/09/2009 09:38:15 AM 919 Views
Re: The key phrase is "should be. " Lady Isa Avanderidhril - 03/09/2009 09:47:39 AM 792 Views
That sounds like a good stop gap to me. Joel - 03/09/2009 09:50:57 AM 807 Views
In fairness, most Europeans don't seem to realize what ObamaCare is. Legolas - 03/09/2009 02:34:01 PM 783 Views
What makes you think we do? nossy - 03/09/2009 09:11:06 PM 792 Views
Oh, you don't either. I thought that went without saying. *NM* Legolas - 03/09/2009 09:25:54 PM 441 Views
As far as most people I know are concerned, opposition to ObamaCare isn't the issue. Rebekah - 03/09/2009 11:04:36 PM 877 Views
It's hard not to be horrified with a government as wasteful as ours Brian - 03/09/2009 11:24:59 PM 654 Views
I can understand horror of governments. Rebekah - 03/09/2009 11:30:23 PM 650 Views
a bit, yes. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:08:37 AM 446 Views
For Americans who don't understand why Canadians like their public healthcare. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:23:11 AM 774 Views
Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 04:44:32 AM 758 Views
Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:05:11 AM 875 Views
In all honesty.... Brian - 04/09/2009 05:18:23 AM 710 Views
Re: In all honesty.... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 07:19:28 AM 788 Views
Re: Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:24:49 PM 716 Views
Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:11:45 AM 910 Views
That's a nice theory. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:49:34 PM 784 Views
It's a fact ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:21:59 PM 769 Views
Re: It's a fact Joel - 05/09/2009 03:18:39 AM 734 Views
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