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How does the business benefit? Сталин Send a noteboard - 04/09/2009 04:54:27 PM
A business has to turn over withheld money directly to the IRS and state taxation authorities anyway. It's not like they can arbitrage the withheld money, and even if they could the amount they could make would be so small that it wouldn't affect their operations (unless you're envisioning some Dickensian sweat shop where tens of thousands of people are employed at minimum wage).

You can also write that as "Stalin" *MySmiley*
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For Europeans who don't understand why Americans are against ObamaCare Tom - 03/09/2009 04:24:35 AM 1363 Views
I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. " Joel - 03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 805 Views
The US will never work with socialism. Tom - 03/09/2009 04:40:21 AM 884 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. Joel - 03/09/2009 04:58:47 AM 870 Views
I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Brian - 03/09/2009 05:04:34 AM 792 Views
It's advanced beyond what it was during the Revolution, I think. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:18:22 AM 837 Views
I would say it's grown with the government Brian - 03/09/2009 05:23:52 AM 819 Views
The key is that government shouldn't be heavily involved in personal lives. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:58:39 AM 844 Views
Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM 754 Views
If I lived in France I wouldn't trust the Government either. Brian - 04/09/2009 03:44:55 AM 829 Views
*laughs* the point is taken. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:24:07 AM 520 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:28:24 AM 913 Views
How much more can we really tax the wealthy?? Brian - 03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM 755 Views
Sadly, I think going back to the Clinton rates would help Tom - 03/09/2009 04:42:54 AM 691 Views
I'm ok with that....not super excited....but ok with it Brian - 03/09/2009 04:57:32 AM 719 Views
A lot; before Reagans "reforms" we already taxed them less than any other industrialized state did. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:06:00 AM 834 Views
I'm in the lower-middle class tax bracket Brian - 03/09/2009 05:13:39 AM 760 Views
It's both, IMHO. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:29:41 AM 691 Views
I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:19:08 AM 688 Views
Re: I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... Joel - 03/09/2009 05:40:32 AM 784 Views
Nice non-answer answer..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:52:04 AM 782 Views
You want detailed answers that require detailed data I don't have. Joel - 03/09/2009 06:06:55 AM 848 Views
Here are some facts and analyses..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:40:22 PM 920 Views
The Heritage Foundation, huh? Joel - 03/09/2009 03:01:17 PM 926 Views
The non-working wealthy? Please quantify..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:31:58 PM 873 Views
So you accept the CBOs assessment the House healthcare bill will be $1 trillion over the next decade Joel - 04/09/2009 03:02:13 AM 783 Views
Wow, that was one of the dumbest posts I have ever read..... trzaska2000 - 05/09/2009 05:42:45 AM 826 Views
So you're saying you DON'T proofread...? Joel - 05/09/2009 05:59:49 AM 938 Views
Paris Hilton? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:43:19 AM 795 Views
You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:15:55 AM 878 Views
Re: You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:59:21 AM 971 Views
Less than 200 people were said to be US persons with Swiss accounts Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:16:24 AM 774 Views
And yet account for many millions of dollars; what does that say...? Joel - 04/09/2009 04:21:57 AM 764 Views
It's statistically insignificant and your hyperbole is reminiscent of screaming guests on CNN. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:07:31 PM 703 Views
Well, look at this way: Joel - 04/09/2009 02:24:03 PM 842 Views
That's not a solution. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:39:12 AM 849 Views
The Soviets weren't socialist, or even communist, so it's a false comparison. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:09:06 AM 781 Views
Okay, now you've just gone into Kool-aid drinking territory. Сталин - 05/09/2009 04:32:07 AM 901 Views
Communist THEORY is predicated on democratic participation at every level,totally absent in the USSR Joel - 05/09/2009 04:55:00 AM 1015 Views
FINALLY!!! Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:22:53 AM 815 Views
Ever heard of the 20-80 rule? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:28:54 AM 686 Views
Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:41:35 AM 1011 Views
Re: Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:09:30 AM 819 Views
Top earners? Please define.....what income and how much more? *NM* trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:52:25 AM 522 Views
That would be open to definition, and should change with inflation. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:13:02 AM 948 Views
What is your justification for taking over 50% of anyone's income? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:28:22 AM 898 Views
That's a good example of why I say the rate has to be set to cost of living. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:50:16 AM 929 Views
Still no comment on the fact that 40% of Americans don't pay any income taxes? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:32:12 PM 826 Views
To what 40% do you refer? Joel - 03/09/2009 02:42:55 PM 690 Views
Dude, you are not making this easy..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:38:01 PM 733 Views
No one "gets money from the IRS. " Joel - 04/09/2009 02:55:02 AM 734 Views
Actually with EIC you can get money back that you never paid in. Brian - 04/09/2009 02:56:43 AM 734 Views
It MIGHT be possible with the EIC, but in practice few people get more than they paid. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:43:36 AM 781 Views
I don't know, I've known plenty of people that have gotten more back than they paid in Brian - 04/09/2009 03:46:29 AM 859 Views
A neat trick then. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:09:58 AM 863 Views
To be fair Brian - 04/09/2009 04:50:20 AM 799 Views
Ah, gotcha. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:53:58 AM 805 Views
Yet another example of your ignorance on tax policy. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:19:39 AM 685 Views
The word I notice is "welfare" Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:57:01 AM 815 Views
I wouldn't say that's what it means.... Brian - 04/09/2009 04:02:40 AM 793 Views
It's what welfare means to me... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:32:17 AM 808 Views
I was just talking about EIC as a form of welfare, not welfare welfare. *NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 04:45:13 AM 457 Views
yes, I get that now. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:02:53 AM 441 Views
*NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 05:14:01 AM 442 Views
Not necessarily Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:11:41 AM 765 Views
*shrugs* I have a soft heart. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:30:52 AM 446 Views
It's a credit for people who file a return on income that's been taxed. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:19:57 AM 731 Views
It is only for the WORKING poor, yes. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:12:55 PM 734 Views
Mean it may be, but hardly illegal. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:31:16 PM 746 Views
How does the business benefit? Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:54:27 PM 752 Views
I didn't realize you meant literal withholding. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:03:32 AM 767 Views
That's a no-no, Joel AgentOrange - 03/09/2009 07:32:03 AM 737 Views
Europe impresses me for one simple reason: Joel - 03/09/2009 09:21:28 AM 785 Views
No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM* Brian - 03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM 357 Views
If that scares you, check this out! trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:48:56 AM 886 Views
Excellent post - the US government is not capable of running HC..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:40:19 AM 681 Views
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The bailout, some of it, was necessary..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:51:03 AM 791 Views
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Well there is only one catch *NM* random thoughts - 03/09/2009 10:56:00 PM 441 Views
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Re: The key phrase is "should be. " Lady Isa Avanderidhril - 03/09/2009 09:47:39 AM 830 Views
That sounds like a good stop gap to me. Joel - 03/09/2009 09:50:57 AM 852 Views
In fairness, most Europeans don't seem to realize what ObamaCare is. Legolas - 03/09/2009 02:34:01 PM 822 Views
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a bit, yes. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:08:37 AM 463 Views
For Americans who don't understand why Canadians like their public healthcare. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:23:11 AM 822 Views
Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 04:44:32 AM 798 Views
Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:05:11 AM 922 Views
In all honesty.... Brian - 04/09/2009 05:18:23 AM 749 Views
Re: In all honesty.... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 07:19:28 AM 829 Views
Re: Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:24:49 PM 758 Views
Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:11:45 AM 964 Views
That's a nice theory. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:49:34 PM 843 Views
It's a fact ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:21:59 PM 805 Views
Re: It's a fact Joel - 05/09/2009 03:18:39 AM 777 Views
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