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See this seems like some common sense stuff to me. How do we get politicians to make good on it? *NM* Urza Send a noteboard - 24/05/2017 05:20:15 PM

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After going through a long list of completely impossible steps, we are left with options such as:
  1. Reducing immigration from nations with a high level of religious intolerance (which functionally means Salafi Islam)

  2. Making residency and naturalization conditional on a commitment to Western values so that one can be deported for, say, marching with signs that say "To Hell with Democracy" - while this limits free speech, it doesn't limit the expression per se, only recognizes that there was a condition to admission and, if broken, such admission can be withdrawn

  3. Openly banning the spread of Salafi Islam to the full extent we can make that legal

  4. Imposing criminal penalties for any internet services that knowingly permit Salafi literature to be propagated

  5. Taking military action to destroy training camps, informational centers and other gatherings of jihadis

The thing is that we're already doing most of this. The big failure has traditionally been Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar, who have permitted funding. Let's see what happens with the new center announced when President Trump went there. I have heard from people who have met with the new king of Saudi Arabia that the Royal Family has recognized the danger to itself as well as its kingdom from the extremists and is finally doing something about it. It will take time, though.


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Terrible thing in Manchester last night. - 23/05/2017 03:34:11 PM 1212 Views
Pogroms - 23/05/2017 04:29:06 PM 643 Views
You can't stop psychos from doing psychopathic things. - 23/05/2017 05:40:15 PM 584 Views
I'm not sure i understand. - 23/05/2017 05:54:33 PM 609 Views
That's a quite obtuse answer - 23/05/2017 08:34:20 PM 614 Views
Hiding? - 23/05/2017 08:58:11 PM 682 Views
What do you mean, exactly, by "stop making ourselves targets" then? - 23/05/2017 09:47:43 PM 592 Views
First off, we agree completely on one thing - 23/05/2017 10:51:22 PM 650 Views
What hasn't been consistent about our foreign policy in that region? - 23/05/2017 11:13:57 PM 677 Views
I thought it was obvious that I didn't mean consistently shit. - 23/05/2017 11:36:58 PM 638 Views
It's always about us, then, isn't it? - 24/05/2017 02:34:52 AM 619 Views
For me, it is. - 24/05/2017 07:49:03 AM 628 Views
Don't forget getting an education if you are female *NM* - 23/05/2017 09:38:26 PM 342 Views
They might have a point with that one. I haven't seen much value from it. - 23/05/2017 09:53:19 PM 563 Views
You are going to get rocks thrown at you *NM* - 23/05/2017 10:29:45 PM 297 Views
There aren't many left who would bother. *NM* - 23/05/2017 10:52:14 PM 342 Views
Me and the jihadis - victory by sticking around! *NM* - 24/05/2017 11:11:35 AM 331 Views
There are lots of things we can do. There are few we will do. - 23/05/2017 08:46:50 PM 614 Views
Aren't there significant differences between the Salafis and the Islamic State? - 23/05/2017 08:58:35 PM 583 Views
All extremists are Salafis, not every Salafi is an extremist - 23/05/2017 09:54:26 PM 728 Views
Yeah, I get that. - 23/05/2017 10:12:45 PM 621 Views
See this seems like some common sense stuff to me. How do we get politicians to make good on it? *NM* - 24/05/2017 05:20:15 PM 376 Views
Picking a concert that would be mostly teenage girls makes it extra disgusting *NM* - 23/05/2017 09:37:25 PM 329 Views
Not really. It's a logical extension of the whole rationale. - 23/05/2017 09:50:30 PM 658 Views
He said 'extra disgusting'. Not 'less logical'. *NM* - 23/05/2017 10:29:21 PM 343 Views
I am not sure logic applies to the issue. - 23/05/2017 10:41:32 PM 562 Views
I can see that - 24/05/2017 11:47:59 AM 621 Views
It makes me wonder about the attacker - 23/05/2017 11:00:40 PM 624 Views
I wonder about what these people sea in a good who wants this kind of thing - 24/05/2017 05:58:25 PM 613 Views
It really does. That shit makes the blood boil. *NM* - 24/05/2017 05:23:33 PM 354 Views
Isis Shmisis. Daesh is just the end result of the radicalization of many Muslims. - 23/05/2017 11:58:42 PM 610 Views
Blaming the Ottomans, while largely correct, is less satisfying to them. - 24/05/2017 03:21:14 AM 624 Views
There's lots of nationalist feeling, surely. - 24/05/2017 06:48:59 PM 624 Views
Your errors are legion here. - 24/05/2017 10:03:53 PM 597 Views
Really? I see precisely one point which, according to you, is a factual error. - 26/05/2017 11:41:00 PM 658 Views
You're not looking very hard, then - 27/05/2017 03:23:36 PM 686 Views
At this point we're just arguing about perspective, seems to me. - 28/05/2017 07:11:55 PM 774 Views
No, I think that you're missing the point - 28/05/2017 09:49:34 PM 525 Views
Alright, I did miss that point. - 29/05/2017 07:33:36 PM 574 Views
You can't do anything - 24/05/2017 05:00:31 PM 569 Views
Be honest. We both know I am a major hardass and you like it. *NM* - 24/05/2017 05:19:21 PM 316 Views
Oh I do - 25/05/2017 10:27:08 AM 699 Views
My opinion? We (USA) should either bomb ISIS into oblivion or back off and let them kill each other *NM* - 24/05/2017 05:38:37 PM 353 Views
When I see those girl's faces and think about how easily it could be my 11 year old daughter - 24/05/2017 05:53:01 PM 605 Views
I would prefer to annihilate them, if possible, without boots on the ground. - 24/05/2017 06:03:49 PM 587 Views
I admit my reaction is as much emotional as rational but boots may be needed - 24/05/2017 06:37:51 PM 666 Views
Are you serious? - 28/05/2017 09:56:07 PM 517 Views
There is no tool for not allowing citizens back in the country - 29/05/2017 10:11:42 PM 548 Views
Re: There is no tool for not allowing citizens back in the country *NM* - 29/05/2017 10:11:52 PM 360 Views
Wow, talk about mission creep hitting after just one (incoherent) message - 30/05/2017 03:07:46 PM 780 Views
Speak for yourself. - 30/05/2017 06:57:16 PM 617 Views
You have thus argued for the death of education. - 31/05/2017 02:51:11 PM 588 Views
No, I've argued for substance over form. - 31/05/2017 07:07:28 PM 681 Views
Well, fuck you too then - 02/06/2017 01:43:47 AM 786 Views
Tom, he's dyslexic. Stop being a dick. - 02/06/2017 09:37:27 AM 556 Views
I'm such a n00b *NM* - 24/05/2017 06:03:50 PM 318 Views

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