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Hiding? nossy Send a noteboard - 23/05/2017 08:58:11 PM

Or possibly the interpretation is myopic.

It may not seem like it, but I did think before replying. None of what I came up with includes hiding, but as I've just finished a very long day with a toddler, I'm not at all inclined to justify myself in what will inevitably become a twenty post Tomversation. I stand by what I said.


View original postWhen billions of dollars a year go to finance an ideology of hatred that believes that people can and should be killed for being Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Shia, Ahmadi, or atheist, for listening to music, for reading literature, for watching a movie or a play, for dancing, for being gay, for being a woman not dressed as a trash bag, there's a hell of a lot more we can and should do, and it doesn't involve hiding and hoping they won't notice you.

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Terrible thing in Manchester last night. Urza - 23/05/2017 03:34:11 PM 1212 Views
Pogroms Cannoli - 23/05/2017 04:29:06 PM 643 Views
You can't stop psychos from doing psychopathic things. nossy - 23/05/2017 05:40:15 PM 584 Views
I'm not sure i understand. Urza - 23/05/2017 05:54:33 PM 609 Views
That's a quite obtuse answer Tom - 23/05/2017 08:34:20 PM 614 Views
Hiding? nossy - 23/05/2017 08:58:11 PM 682 Views
What do you mean, exactly, by "stop making ourselves targets" then? Tom - 23/05/2017 09:47:43 PM 592 Views
First off, we agree completely on one thing nossy - 23/05/2017 10:51:22 PM 650 Views
What hasn't been consistent about our foreign policy in that region? Tom - 23/05/2017 11:13:57 PM 677 Views
I thought it was obvious that I didn't mean consistently shit. nossy - 23/05/2017 11:36:58 PM 638 Views
It's always about us, then, isn't it? Tom - 24/05/2017 02:34:52 AM 619 Views
For me, it is. nossy - 24/05/2017 07:49:03 AM 628 Views
Don't forget getting an education if you are female *NM* random thoughts - 23/05/2017 09:38:26 PM 342 Views
They might have a point with that one. I haven't seen much value from it. Cannoli - 23/05/2017 09:53:19 PM 563 Views
You are going to get rocks thrown at you *NM* random thoughts - 23/05/2017 10:29:45 PM 297 Views
There aren't many left who would bother. *NM* nossy - 23/05/2017 10:52:14 PM 342 Views
Me and the jihadis - victory by sticking around! *NM* Cannoli - 24/05/2017 11:11:35 AM 331 Views
There aren't very many ways to stop making ourselves a target for the Islamic State. damookster - 23/05/2017 09:04:56 PM 508 Views
I am not willing to give up the kill them all options until we give it a better try *NM* random thoughts - 23/05/2017 09:39:38 PM 351 Views
All DAESH acts of provocation have the same goal damookster - 23/05/2017 06:57:00 PM 567 Views
That reasoning only works if you view Daesh as a monolithic entity, though. Legolas - 23/05/2017 10:02:01 PM 601 Views
The so-called lone wolf attacks are often performed by those unable to go to Syria damookster - 23/05/2017 10:06:08 PM 615 Views
Once again with the monolithic view. Legolas - 23/05/2017 10:21:20 PM 569 Views
Is it possible that rather than me overestimating the depth of devotion... damookster - 23/05/2017 10:33:18 PM 524 Views
I don't say you overestimate it, no doubt for some that's true. But they're not all the same. *NM* Legolas - 23/05/2017 11:12:26 PM 317 Views
As usual, you and I are talking about two different things damookster - 24/05/2017 05:36:31 PM 587 Views
Also, didn't they disavow the whole Dabiq thing when they lost control of the village? *NM* Tom - 23/05/2017 10:29:23 PM 368 Views
I must have missed that, but that sounds about like what I'd expect. *NM* Legolas - 23/05/2017 10:31:03 PM 378 Views
I mean if that would end it once and for all then we should absolutely do that but... Urza - 24/05/2017 05:22:29 PM 632 Views
There are lots of things we can do. There are few we will do. Tom - 23/05/2017 08:46:50 PM 614 Views
Aren't there significant differences between the Salafis and the Islamic State? damookster - 23/05/2017 08:58:35 PM 583 Views
All extremists are Salafis, not every Salafi is an extremist Tom - 23/05/2017 09:54:26 PM 728 Views
Yeah, I get that. damookster - 23/05/2017 10:12:45 PM 621 Views
Advocating non-terrorist Salafism is like advocating sexual abstinence in college Tom - 23/05/2017 10:27:22 PM 562 Views
I was going to ask when I saw your post above... Legolas - 23/05/2017 11:26:33 PM 584 Views
The Saudi royals like us, the people hate us. The Iranian people like us, the Ayatollah hates us. Tom - 24/05/2017 02:56:57 AM 654 Views
See this seems like some common sense stuff to me. How do we get politicians to make good on it? *NM* Urza - 24/05/2017 05:20:15 PM 375 Views
Trump is trying to do some. The 9th Circuit seems to think it can upend all precedent to stop him. Tom - 24/05/2017 09:46:30 PM 619 Views
Picking a concert that would be mostly teenage girls makes it extra disgusting *NM* random thoughts - 23/05/2017 09:37:25 PM 329 Views
Not really. It's a logical extension of the whole rationale. Cannoli - 23/05/2017 09:50:30 PM 658 Views
Yes. Also they believe the more outrageous the attack, the sooner the final war will occur. *NM* damookster - 23/05/2017 10:08:09 PM 325 Views
He said 'extra disgusting'. Not 'less logical'. *NM* Legolas - 23/05/2017 10:29:21 PM 343 Views
I am not sure logic applies to the issue. random thoughts - 23/05/2017 10:41:32 PM 561 Views
I can see that Cannoli - 24/05/2017 11:47:59 AM 621 Views
It makes me wonder about the attacker nossy - 23/05/2017 11:00:40 PM 624 Views
I wonder about what these people sea in a good who wants this kind of thing random thoughts - 24/05/2017 05:58:25 PM 613 Views
It really does. That shit makes the blood boil. *NM* Urza - 24/05/2017 05:23:33 PM 354 Views
Isis Shmisis. Daesh is just the end result of the radicalization of many Muslims. AgentApple - 23/05/2017 11:58:42 PM 610 Views
Blaming the Ottomans, while largely correct, is less satisfying to them. Tom - 24/05/2017 03:21:14 AM 624 Views
Not to mention, the Ottomans are relative latecomers to the Muslims of the region Cannoli - 24/05/2017 11:31:06 AM 790 Views
There's lots of nationalist feeling, surely. Legolas - 24/05/2017 06:48:59 PM 624 Views
Your errors are legion here. Tom - 24/05/2017 10:03:53 PM 597 Views
Really? I see precisely one point which, according to you, is a factual error. Legolas - 26/05/2017 11:41:00 PM 658 Views
You're not looking very hard, then Tom - 27/05/2017 03:23:36 PM 686 Views
At this point we're just arguing about perspective, seems to me. Legolas - 28/05/2017 07:11:55 PM 774 Views
No, I think that you're missing the point Tom - 28/05/2017 09:49:34 PM 525 Views
Alright, I did miss that point. Legolas - 29/05/2017 07:33:36 PM 574 Views
Oh, and now, according to the headlines, the son of Libyan immigrants is a "homegrown" terrorist Cannoli - 24/05/2017 11:33:42 AM 565 Views
You can't do anything Belals Girl - 24/05/2017 05:00:31 PM 569 Views
Be honest. We both know I am a major hardass and you like it. *NM* Urza - 24/05/2017 05:19:21 PM 316 Views
Oh I do ßelals Girl - 25/05/2017 10:27:08 AM 699 Views
My opinion? We (USA) should either bomb ISIS into oblivion or back off and let them kill each other *NM* damookster - 24/05/2017 05:38:37 PM 353 Views
When I see those girl's faces and think about how easily it could be my 11 year old daughter random thoughts - 24/05/2017 05:53:01 PM 605 Views
I would prefer to annihilate them, if possible, without boots on the ground. damookster - 24/05/2017 06:03:49 PM 587 Views
I admit my reaction is as much emotional as rational but boots may be needed random thoughts - 24/05/2017 06:37:51 PM 666 Views
Are you serious? Tom - 28/05/2017 09:56:07 PM 517 Views
There is no tool for not allowing citizens back in the country random thoughts - 29/05/2017 10:11:42 PM 548 Views
Re: There is no tool for not allowing citizens back in the country *NM* random thoughts - 29/05/2017 10:11:52 PM 360 Views
Wow, talk about mission creep hitting after just one (incoherent) message Tom - 30/05/2017 03:07:46 PM 780 Views
Speak for yourself. Legolas - 30/05/2017 06:57:16 PM 617 Views
You have thus argued for the death of education. Tom - 31/05/2017 02:51:11 PM 588 Views
No, I've argued for substance over form. Legolas - 31/05/2017 07:07:28 PM 681 Views
Well, fuck you too then Tom - 02/06/2017 01:43:47 AM 786 Views
Tom, he's dyslexic. Stop being a dick. nossy - 02/06/2017 09:37:27 AM 556 Views
Then he should get grammarly.com or check his fucking writing. Tom - 02/06/2017 10:36:11 PM 495 Views
I'm such a n00b *NM* damookster - 24/05/2017 06:03:50 PM 318 Views
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