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Trump is trying to do some. The 9th Circuit seems to think it can upend all precedent to stop him. Tom Send a noteboard - 24/05/2017 09:46:30 PM

There's little doubt the Supreme Court will overturn the 9th Circuit, but you see how much resistance there is.

We can amend immigration forms without Congressional action to include all sorts of questions about ideology, like "Do you believe that all people are entitled to equal rights regardless of sexual orientation?" (we probably already have that).

The limitation there is that we can only kick them out if we can prove that AT THAT TIME they were lying, which is why you put it in every visa application, every green card application or renewal, and every naturalization application.

Then, if there is evidence they lied, you can get rid of them. Denaturalization is the hardest, but it is possible and can be done. Of course, there's a further problem that often it's the children (as in Manchester) of the immigrants who are the worst. They don't feel at home in their native country and want to prove they're more Catholic than the Pope, so to speak, with respect to their heritage. Not permitting ghettoization might be another step that would help reduce this problem.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Terrible thing in Manchester last night. - 23/05/2017 03:34:11 PM 1162 Views
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Hiding? - 23/05/2017 08:58:11 PM 633 Views
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I thought it was obvious that I didn't mean consistently shit. - 23/05/2017 11:36:58 PM 602 Views
It's always about us, then, isn't it? - 24/05/2017 02:34:52 AM 581 Views
For me, it is. - 24/05/2017 07:49:03 AM 590 Views
Don't forget getting an education if you are female *NM* - 23/05/2017 09:38:26 PM 322 Views
They might have a point with that one. I haven't seen much value from it. - 23/05/2017 09:53:19 PM 526 Views
You are going to get rocks thrown at you *NM* - 23/05/2017 10:29:45 PM 275 Views
There aren't many left who would bother. *NM* - 23/05/2017 10:52:14 PM 319 Views
Me and the jihadis - victory by sticking around! *NM* - 24/05/2017 11:11:35 AM 312 Views
There are lots of things we can do. There are few we will do. - 23/05/2017 08:46:50 PM 571 Views
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All extremists are Salafis, not every Salafi is an extremist - 23/05/2017 09:54:26 PM 682 Views
Yeah, I get that. - 23/05/2017 10:12:45 PM 581 Views
See this seems like some common sense stuff to me. How do we get politicians to make good on it? *NM* - 24/05/2017 05:20:15 PM 357 Views
Trump is trying to do some. The 9th Circuit seems to think it can upend all precedent to stop him. - 24/05/2017 09:46:30 PM 582 Views
Picking a concert that would be mostly teenage girls makes it extra disgusting *NM* - 23/05/2017 09:37:25 PM 306 Views
Not really. It's a logical extension of the whole rationale. - 23/05/2017 09:50:30 PM 617 Views
He said 'extra disgusting'. Not 'less logical'. *NM* - 23/05/2017 10:29:21 PM 323 Views
I am not sure logic applies to the issue. - 23/05/2017 10:41:32 PM 520 Views
I can see that - 24/05/2017 11:47:59 AM 582 Views
It makes me wonder about the attacker - 23/05/2017 11:00:40 PM 583 Views
I wonder about what these people sea in a good who wants this kind of thing - 24/05/2017 05:58:25 PM 572 Views
It really does. That shit makes the blood boil. *NM* - 24/05/2017 05:23:33 PM 336 Views
Isis Shmisis. Daesh is just the end result of the radicalization of many Muslims. - 23/05/2017 11:58:42 PM 559 Views
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There's lots of nationalist feeling, surely. - 24/05/2017 06:48:59 PM 582 Views
Your errors are legion here. - 24/05/2017 10:03:53 PM 557 Views
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You're not looking very hard, then - 27/05/2017 03:23:36 PM 643 Views
At this point we're just arguing about perspective, seems to me. - 28/05/2017 07:11:55 PM 741 Views
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Alright, I did miss that point. - 29/05/2017 07:33:36 PM 532 Views
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Be honest. We both know I am a major hardass and you like it. *NM* - 24/05/2017 05:19:21 PM 298 Views
Oh I do - 25/05/2017 10:27:08 AM 653 Views
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There is no tool for not allowing citizens back in the country - 29/05/2017 10:11:42 PM 508 Views
Re: There is no tool for not allowing citizens back in the country *NM* - 29/05/2017 10:11:52 PM 323 Views
Wow, talk about mission creep hitting after just one (incoherent) message - 30/05/2017 03:07:46 PM 739 Views
Speak for yourself. - 30/05/2017 06:57:16 PM 577 Views
You have thus argued for the death of education. - 31/05/2017 02:51:11 PM 554 Views
No, I've argued for substance over form. - 31/05/2017 07:07:28 PM 649 Views
Well, fuck you too then - 02/06/2017 01:43:47 AM 740 Views
Tom, he's dyslexic. Stop being a dick. - 02/06/2017 09:37:27 AM 514 Views
I'm such a n00b *NM* - 24/05/2017 06:03:50 PM 302 Views

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