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That's a piss-poor analogy damookster Send a noteboard - 27/06/2017 10:23:04 PM

My father and I chose to work two jobs so our wives weren't required to work. How many single income producer households exist today? Plus, in case you haven't noticed, the average American works well over 40 hours a week. Because people do what they have to do. Or, they cry for income redistribution.

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Case study of the damage liberalism can do - $15 Min Wage Anonymous2000 - 27/06/2017 01:54:54 AM 1686 Views
Seattle is a poor choice for a case study damookster - 27/06/2017 05:31:18 AM 1064 Views
Well, sure, but many of those non-entry level jobs are being held by baby boomers. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 06:09:40 AM 1055 Views
That's at least in part because the minimum wage makes automation more cost-effective Cannoli - 27/06/2017 11:04:28 AM 942 Views
Exactly. If you have to pay people $15/hour as a McDonald's cashier, put in the robots instead. Tom - 27/06/2017 07:18:11 PM 995 Views
That is an incredibly silly argument. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 08:56:09 PM 1010 Views
If you assume wages can't go lower... Cannoli - 29/06/2017 04:52:33 AM 1041 Views
Many? damookster - 27/06/2017 12:30:39 PM 1029 Views
Amen. Tom - 27/06/2017 07:21:47 PM 1018 Views
Yes, many. My office is full of them. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 08:59:55 PM 943 Views
So is life. damookster - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 964 Views
Re: So is life. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 09:49:21 PM 970 Views
My father worked two jobs his entire working life. damookster - 27/06/2017 09:56:56 PM 996 Views
We have a 40 hour work week for a reason. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 10:17:15 PM 1025 Views
That's a piss-poor analogy damookster - 27/06/2017 10:23:04 PM 963 Views
How is that really relevant, then? Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 11:03:34 PM 931 Views
I am really enjoying this new-fangled "like" feature we have now. *NM* Clover - 28/06/2017 12:13:42 AM 680 Views
*NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 12:25:45 AM 544 Views
Personal choice damookster - 28/06/2017 12:20:47 AM 1053 Views
Re: Personal choice Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 12:32:31 AM 1029 Views
In theory I agree with your ideas about a living wage, however The Shrike - 28/06/2017 12:16:56 PM 1044 Views
Very good questions Tom - 28/06/2017 03:01:02 PM 975 Views
FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM. Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 07:49:59 PM 1137 Views
Also, curtailing immigration, like keeping the minimum wage low, really only delays the inevitable. Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 11:05:58 PM 988 Views
damn *NM* damookster - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 628 Views
Just retire already, you luddite! *NM* Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 09:45:46 PM 595 Views
I wish. damookster - 27/06/2017 09:48:02 PM 1004 Views
Bad life decisions lead to bad life consequences random thoughts - 28/06/2017 05:44:58 PM 973 Views
You also shouldn't respond to it by letting them die. Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 07:53:10 PM 993 Views
But this same arguement can be flipped by.... Jeordam - 28/06/2017 10:34:25 PM 1055 Views
I feel like you're making my arguments for me here. Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 10:51:38 PM 1081 Views
an apt comparison damookster - 28/06/2017 11:09:25 PM 944 Views
So everyone who "can't" nossy - 29/06/2017 09:49:41 AM 994 Views
ummm damookster - 29/06/2017 02:06:54 PM 908 Views
I know. And I disagree with you. nossy - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM 1022 Views
Health care and minimum wage are different discussions damookster - 29/06/2017 05:14:07 PM 1038 Views
I think nossy and I are ok with letting lazy people get by... Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 08:11:36 PM 977 Views
Si nossy - 29/06/2017 09:08:03 PM 1004 Views
Who said that? damookster - 29/06/2017 09:47:32 PM 1049 Views
Who said what? nossy - 29/06/2017 10:32:12 PM 936 Views
There is a huge difference.... Jeordam - 29/06/2017 05:10:05 PM 997 Views
Hyperbole is all well and good for internet memes but it really doesn' advance your argument. random thoughts - 03/07/2017 04:22:59 PM 913 Views
Why does McDonalds keep coming up in this? Cannoli - 29/06/2017 06:53:46 AM 1156 Views
Nicely said. Or written. *NM* AgentApple - 29/06/2017 09:30:06 AM 573 Views
All right, so what society without minimum wage do you point to as a model? *NM* Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 09:39:12 AM 603 Views
How about "all the ones we had before the 20th century"? Cannoli - 29/06/2017 10:47:30 PM 1124 Views
The ones where hunger and scarcity were widespread? Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 11:04:02 PM 957 Views
So just to put this out there... Jeordam - 29/06/2017 11:12:47 PM 942 Views
Re: So just to put this out there... Ghavrel - 30/06/2017 01:34:03 AM 902 Views
Yes, and me being SUCH a fan of urbanization... Cannoli - 30/06/2017 03:39:51 PM 1147 Views
The example for this post was for Seattle, or perhaps King County only. damookster - 29/06/2017 11:49:32 PM 1060 Views
"Attract labor"? Minimum wage labor? I believe you mean, violently repell businesses Cannoli - 30/06/2017 03:31:36 PM 1035 Views
Like anything else not addressed in the Constitution, it should be up to state and local government damookster - 30/06/2017 05:22:51 PM 1051 Views
I for one am entirely unsuprised. Common sense result. *NM* Urza - 27/06/2017 06:23:01 AM 630 Views
Seems like a methodology to identify struggling operations more than one to evaluate... Vodalus - 27/06/2017 10:25:30 AM 974 Views
But the traffic is the WORST. Clover - 28/06/2017 12:47:13 AM 1103 Views
You are a Husky? TIL clover is one of the Huskies. Roland00 - 28/06/2017 02:26:46 AM 913 Views
Re: But the traffic is the WORST. Vodalus - 28/06/2017 10:38:54 AM 990 Views
Just to nitpick, Switzerland isn't exactly homogeneous. Legolas - 28/06/2017 10:28:01 PM 1014 Views
Don't say "liberalism" - there's nothing liberal about them. Say "Leftism". *NM* Tom - 27/06/2017 05:07:36 PM 540 Views
I was thinking the same. Even in the US, that's a weird context to use that word in. *NM* Legolas - 27/06/2017 05:50:21 PM 570 Views
Most Americans have no idea about the historical context of Liberalism. The Shrike - 27/06/2017 06:03:38 PM 966 Views
But even so, surely even in the US the main connotation is with social progressives, not economic? Legolas - 27/06/2017 06:28:54 PM 959 Views
I think it started to change in the 1980s Tom - 27/06/2017 07:14:26 PM 868 Views
Re: I think it started to change in the 1980s Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 09:05:23 PM 948 Views
Whether or not their views are shitty is a subjective determination Tom - 27/06/2017 11:15:22 PM 977 Views
A decade under conservative deans would fix the situation nicely, I think. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 11:24:41 PM 906 Views
Yes! I wonder what Dean Wormer from Faber is doing these days... *NM* Tom - 28/06/2017 12:03:46 AM 458 Views
So I've been thinking through this whole minimum wage thing.... Jeordam - 28/06/2017 05:47:26 PM 1051 Views
It varies fairly significantly from location to location. MIT has a decent calculator. Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 07:56:41 PM 1505 Views
Re: So I've been thinking through this whole minimum wage thing.... Cannoli - 29/06/2017 05:08:56 AM 1073 Views
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