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"Attract labor"? Minimum wage labor? I believe you mean, violently repell businesses Cannoli Send a noteboard - 30/06/2017 03:31:36 PM

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But if at the basic level of local government, be that city, county, parish or whatever, voters elect those who want to impose a minimum wage, fine.

What if they elect those who want to legalize pedophilia? Morality trumps democracy, and a third party, government or not, has no business interfering in transactions and private contracts between two others.


Perhaps other nearby cities will have to follow suit in order to attract labor. Or, on the other hand, it fails as neighboring businesses charge lower prices due to their reduced labor costs. Either way, the market decides.

The "market decides" what labor is worth. Lots of people don't like that outcome, so they try to circumvent the market by imposing a minimum wage, while refusing to recognize that unemployment is the market's reaction.

As for your vision of the market deciding, with areas having to set or raise a minimum mage in order to prevent workers from fleeing to other regions... NEVER HAPPEN. That's why we have federal & state minimum wage, to protect it from competition. First of all, no one would set up shop in an area that would force them to raise their labor. Much more likely than workers crossing to other regions to make minimum wage (commuting and relocating aren't exactly easy for poor people) is businesses setting up where they don't have to worry about the laws.

Cannoli
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Case study of the damage liberalism can do - $15 Min Wage - 27/06/2017 01:54:54 AM 1553 Views
Seattle is a poor choice for a case study - 27/06/2017 05:31:18 AM 923 Views
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I am really enjoying this new-fangled "like" feature we have now. *NM* - 28/06/2017 12:13:42 AM 584 Views
*NM* - 28/06/2017 12:25:45 AM 457 Views
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Re: Personal choice - 28/06/2017 12:32:31 AM 882 Views
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FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM. - 28/06/2017 07:49:59 PM 973 Views
damn *NM* - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 531 Views
Just retire already, you luddite! *NM* - 27/06/2017 09:45:46 PM 527 Views
I wish. - 27/06/2017 09:48:02 PM 872 Views
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But this same arguement can be flipped by.... - 28/06/2017 10:34:25 PM 908 Views
I feel like you're making my arguments for me here. - 28/06/2017 10:51:38 PM 932 Views
an apt comparison - 28/06/2017 11:09:25 PM 799 Views
So everyone who "can't" - 29/06/2017 09:49:41 AM 829 Views
ummm - 29/06/2017 02:06:54 PM 761 Views
I know. And I disagree with you. - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM 878 Views
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Si - 29/06/2017 09:08:03 PM 855 Views
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Who said what? - 29/06/2017 10:32:12 PM 795 Views
There is a huge difference.... - 29/06/2017 05:10:05 PM 855 Views
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Nicely said. Or written. *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:30:06 AM 490 Views
All right, so what society without minimum wage do you point to as a model? *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:39:12 AM 519 Views
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The ones where hunger and scarcity were widespread? - 29/06/2017 11:04:02 PM 821 Views
So just to put this out there... - 29/06/2017 11:12:47 PM 820 Views
Re: So just to put this out there... - 30/06/2017 01:34:03 AM 771 Views
Yes, and me being SUCH a fan of urbanization... - 30/06/2017 03:39:51 PM 998 Views
The example for this post was for Seattle, or perhaps King County only. - 29/06/2017 11:49:32 PM 915 Views
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I for one am entirely unsuprised. Common sense result. *NM* - 27/06/2017 06:23:01 AM 557 Views
Seems like a methodology to identify struggling operations more than one to evaluate... - 27/06/2017 10:25:30 AM 825 Views
But the traffic is the WORST. - 28/06/2017 12:47:13 AM 933 Views
You are a Husky? TIL clover is one of the Huskies. - 28/06/2017 02:26:46 AM 758 Views
Re: But the traffic is the WORST. - 28/06/2017 10:38:54 AM 834 Views
Just to nitpick, Switzerland isn't exactly homogeneous. - 28/06/2017 10:28:01 PM 877 Views

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