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Re: that is encouraging fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 17/06/2020 10:10:34 PM

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I would be more than happy to wear a mask if it meant we could start attending outdoor concerts and sports events again.

Well, I'm glad to hear it. You'd think there's some huge fundamental rights issue with requiring masks, based on the outrage from some quarters.

If we are to open more widely based on a mask wearing standard, though, we really need to up our stocks of those masks. Which means Trump getting off his ass, which I see no signs of occuring. So I'd tamp down any optimism till we see that.

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I'm curious. damookster - 08/06/2020 06:59:18 PM 1222 Views
Knowledge is always uncertain, there will always be under and overreactions. Roland00 - 08/06/2020 07:06:35 PM 480 Views
I would expect so, yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 08:00:59 PM 260 Views
That yes is for which question? Or is it for both? *NM* damookster - 08/06/2020 08:23:06 PM 255 Views
The first one. Otherwise I'd have said no and yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 09:19:48 PM 248 Views
Yes, I believe we will... fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:15:30 PM 524 Views
Why are you so invested in either closing down the country or the seriousness of the flu? Cannoli - 09/06/2020 06:37:24 PM 562 Views
Because I care about my fellow human being, cockroach. Go infest somewhere else. I'm done with you. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 08:35:42 PM 266 Views
Except you don't. You really, REALLY want this disease to be worse than it is. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:06:50 AM 524 Views
Sure. Anyone who disagrees with you wants mass poverty or mass death. No other possibility exists... fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 02:44:08 PM 511 Views
Fionwe same as other alt-left crazies Nargs - 16/06/2020 05:24:12 PM 548 Views
I dunno what's "alt" about it. We're the mainstream. Which must scare you fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:06:44 PM 467 Views
Dissonance Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:02:08 PM 466 Views
Do you think it's possible to disagree, even vehemently damookster - 16/06/2020 08:14:50 PM 540 Views
I'm sure it is, in some conditions. fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:43:50 PM 534 Views
I am not a middle aged white man. I'm an old white man. damookster - 16/06/2020 06:15:52 PM 523 Views
Evidence is not on your side, damook *NM* Nargs - 16/06/2020 07:27:39 PM 265 Views
Much like... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:34:14 PM 551 Views
Statistically Insignificant Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:07:03 PM 476 Views
Stats don't tell the whole story. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:06:17 PM 477 Views
You're right but on race? Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:08:40 PM 523 Views
Yes, you're right. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:17:04 PM 466 Views
You realize that's not a contradiction, right? fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:49:56 PM 505 Views
A few points gban007 - 17/06/2020 09:29:15 PM 510 Views
I wasn't going to say it but... Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:17:57 PM 529 Views
Again: you really are a loathsome little ball of slime. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:11:52 AM 480 Views
It's not my world, it's theirs. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:13:14 AM 521 Views
Burning down corporate stores and taking their stolen wealth is a moral good. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2020 12:04:52 AM 261 Views
Stolen Wealth? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 04:50:59 PM 515 Views
How does one determine what is Original Sin? Roland00 - 15/06/2020 05:17:37 PM 505 Views
So then.... Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:59:31 PM 500 Views
I'm uncertain if this is what Ghavrel meant, but I'd assume you don't need proof that slavery... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 07:59:07 PM 485 Views
So we're talking about reparations....? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:42:37 PM 514 Views
Why must money solve "all" issues? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 11:32:05 PM 486 Views
So then money won't... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:09:24 PM 509 Views
fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:29:59 PM 492 Views
Those aren't codified examples Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:31:49 PM 505 Views
Well that's some special nonsense fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:55:42 PM 506 Views
We're having a discussion...please try and not denigrate me. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:26:36 PM 485 Views
But I didn't clearly state I want to denigrate you. You're inferring intent. How's that ok? fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:06:28 PM 493 Views
Pain and Death they *actively* choose... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:39:13 PM 515 Views
They make no such choice. Which is why they're out there protesting fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 07:00:25 PM 542 Views
Sigh Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:15:12 PM 476 Views
Nah I just straight up think capitalism is evil. Reparations should be paid, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:22:46 AM 242 Views
Fair enough. *NM* fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:54:11 PM 236 Views
aaah... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:10:16 PM 491 Views
Re: Stolen Wealth? Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:21:32 AM 472 Views
Rather it should be The State? *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:10:59 PM 236 Views
What is "the State" fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:57:34 PM 477 Views
my comment was directed to Ghavrel. damookster - 16/06/2020 04:49:39 PM 480 Views
You shouldn't make assumptions... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:10:02 PM 482 Views
Lemme tell you about this cool thing called syndicalism... *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:46:38 AM 254 Views
There's a lot I like about that... *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:07:47 PM 221 Views
Syndicalisme révolutionnaire, peut-être? *NM* damookster - 17/06/2020 06:29:00 PM 220 Views
I'm actually still a reformist, believe it or not. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:29:18 PM 240 Views
Bah *NM* damookster - 18/06/2020 03:36:20 PM 216 Views
I been thinking about the different religious sects of Himboism, suddenly ... Roland00 - 29/06/2020 01:30:09 AM 458 Views
The only state with legitimacy is the Kingdom of Heaven. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:57:26 PM 224 Views
Are we talking about the Mormon Sect? Roland00 - 16/06/2020 09:06:14 PM 455 Views
My bad damookster - 16/06/2020 10:20:14 PM 484 Views
In fairness, I usually talk policy goals as a social democrat. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 12:34:45 AM 491 Views
They The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:29:35 PM 506 Views
damookster - 17/06/2020 06:40:30 PM 507 Views
I go by she and her, but thank you. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:46 PM 251 Views
I try to be very sensitive to this. damookster - 18/06/2020 03:55:01 PM 502 Views
It means a great deal to me. I can't overstate how much it means to your grandson. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:53 PM 259 Views
Catholicism by itself is a Performance Arts Piece Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:17:45 AM 475 Views
A Catholic?! What?! I'm an Episcopalian. Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:24 PM 518 Views
No thanks. Not into non-democracies. *NM* The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:26:29 PM 233 Views
Ah a fellow Devil's Party Member. *NM* Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:13:37 AM 216 Views
I can empathize with this view, actually, though I no longer hold it. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:47:24 PM 251 Views
That's the debate, isn't it. Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:16:10 PM 467 Views
Economists have been arguing this for over 400 years. Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:22:57 PM 474 Views
You could let the market determine that, I guess. Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:56:23 PM 470 Views
Because we do not live in Paradise. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:36:58 PM 463 Views
Exactly. So the worker should own the means of production with other workers. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:11:21 PM 473 Views
So my question then is.... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:46:11 PM 516 Views
Sigh...I just can't not. Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:20:09 AM 428 Views
You know "talent" in the Bible is explictly referring to money, right? Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:43:11 PM 510 Views
Jesus also said it is easier for a camel to pass though a needle's eye... damookster - 18/06/2020 03:49:43 PM 462 Views
This is true! Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:16 PM 517 Views
Thou shalt not steal. *NM* The Shrike - 15/06/2020 11:10:34 PM 221 Views
"Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:19:26 AM 233 Views
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:13:15 PM 205 Views
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. *NM* The Shrike - 16/06/2020 12:15:04 PM 222 Views
"Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you..." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 10:15:41 PM 240 Views
Is a concern of mine gban007 - 08/06/2020 10:16:09 PM 512 Views
A natural experiment fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:42:34 PM 464 Views
Yes, we probably will. But demonstrators wearing masks are not normal life. Ghavrel - 09/06/2020 07:10:31 AM 509 Views
I'm not sure that's a valid comparison. damookster - 09/06/2020 05:57:31 PM 470 Views
Agreed. These aren't comparable situations. fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 06:09:27 PM 485 Views
Down South that is called Communism Mookie. Roland00 - 09/06/2020 06:32:06 PM 465 Views
Alabama is down south, right? aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:08:15 PM 480 Views
I was comparing it to a control situation of no state action in response to SARS-CoV-2. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:09:19 AM 476 Views
We have all the same rules here in Seattle Bad Ash - 10/06/2020 07:45:59 PM 489 Views
I figured you aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:09:36 PM 477 Views
About your original question... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 09:25:38 PM 501 Views
that is encouraging damookster - 17/06/2020 09:44:10 PM 497 Views
Re: that is encouraging fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 10:10:34 PM 450 Views
Seems indoors with strangers is more a predictor than outdoor protests. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 02:38:07 AM 574 Views
Tips, maybe? fionwe1987 - 27/06/2020 05:10:30 AM 515 Views
Perhaps Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:39 PM 432 Views
A 315 city study, BLM protests did not cause a spike in COVID cases. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:05 PM 485 Views
Sigh, here is some bad news. Case Reports and a Lab study suggests COVID may cause type 1 diabetes Roland00 - 28/06/2020 06:11:45 AM 446 Views
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