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Re: that is encouraging fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 17/06/2020 10:10:34 PM

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I would be more than happy to wear a mask if it meant we could start attending outdoor concerts and sports events again.

Well, I'm glad to hear it. You'd think there's some huge fundamental rights issue with requiring masks, based on the outrage from some quarters.

If we are to open more widely based on a mask wearing standard, though, we really need to up our stocks of those masks. Which means Trump getting off his ass, which I see no signs of occuring. So I'd tamp down any optimism till we see that.

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I'm curious. damookster - 08/06/2020 06:59:18 PM 1315 Views
Knowledge is always uncertain, there will always be under and overreactions. Roland00 - 08/06/2020 07:06:35 PM 581 Views
I would expect so, yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 08:00:59 PM 294 Views
That yes is for which question? Or is it for both? *NM* damookster - 08/06/2020 08:23:06 PM 310 Views
The first one. Otherwise I'd have said no and yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 09:19:48 PM 301 Views
Yes, I believe we will... fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:15:30 PM 637 Views
Why are you so invested in either closing down the country or the seriousness of the flu? Cannoli - 09/06/2020 06:37:24 PM 673 Views
Because I care about my fellow human being, cockroach. Go infest somewhere else. I'm done with you. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 08:35:42 PM 314 Views
Except you don't. You really, REALLY want this disease to be worse than it is. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:06:50 AM 626 Views
Sure. Anyone who disagrees with you wants mass poverty or mass death. No other possibility exists... fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 02:44:08 PM 609 Views
Fionwe same as other alt-left crazies Nargs - 16/06/2020 05:24:12 PM 662 Views
I dunno what's "alt" about it. We're the mainstream. Which must scare you fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:06:44 PM 561 Views
Dissonance Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:02:08 PM 570 Views
Do you think it's possible to disagree, even vehemently damookster - 16/06/2020 08:14:50 PM 620 Views
I'm sure it is, in some conditions. fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:43:50 PM 640 Views
I am not a middle aged white man. I'm an old white man. damookster - 16/06/2020 06:15:52 PM 612 Views
Evidence is not on your side, damook *NM* Nargs - 16/06/2020 07:27:39 PM 315 Views
Much like... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:34:14 PM 658 Views
Statistically Insignificant Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:07:03 PM 577 Views
Stats don't tell the whole story. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:06:17 PM 565 Views
You're right but on race? Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:08:40 PM 616 Views
Yes, you're right. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:17:04 PM 563 Views
You realize that's not a contradiction, right? fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:49:56 PM 611 Views
A few points gban007 - 17/06/2020 09:29:15 PM 602 Views
I wasn't going to say it but... Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:17:57 PM 603 Views
Again: you really are a loathsome little ball of slime. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:11:52 AM 576 Views
It's not my world, it's theirs. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:13:14 AM 602 Views
Burning down corporate stores and taking their stolen wealth is a moral good. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2020 12:04:52 AM 320 Views
Stolen Wealth? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 04:50:59 PM 606 Views
How does one determine what is Original Sin? Roland00 - 15/06/2020 05:17:37 PM 604 Views
So then.... Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:59:31 PM 603 Views
I'm uncertain if this is what Ghavrel meant, but I'd assume you don't need proof that slavery... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 07:59:07 PM 598 Views
So we're talking about reparations....? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:42:37 PM 623 Views
Why must money solve "all" issues? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 11:32:05 PM 580 Views
So then money won't... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:09:24 PM 635 Views
fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:29:59 PM 577 Views
Those aren't codified examples Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:31:49 PM 600 Views
Well that's some special nonsense fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:55:42 PM 595 Views
We're having a discussion...please try and not denigrate me. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:26:36 PM 604 Views
But I didn't clearly state I want to denigrate you. You're inferring intent. How's that ok? fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:06:28 PM 589 Views
Pain and Death they *actively* choose... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:39:13 PM 615 Views
They make no such choice. Which is why they're out there protesting fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 07:00:25 PM 620 Views
Sigh Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:15:12 PM 575 Views
Nah I just straight up think capitalism is evil. Reparations should be paid, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:22:46 AM 300 Views
Fair enough. *NM* fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:54:11 PM 293 Views
aaah... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:10:16 PM 608 Views
Re: Stolen Wealth? Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:21:32 AM 568 Views
Rather it should be The State? *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:10:59 PM 283 Views
What is "the State" fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:57:34 PM 579 Views
my comment was directed to Ghavrel. damookster - 16/06/2020 04:49:39 PM 576 Views
You shouldn't make assumptions... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:10:02 PM 583 Views
Lemme tell you about this cool thing called syndicalism... *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:46:38 AM 306 Views
There's a lot I like about that... *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:07:47 PM 270 Views
Syndicalisme révolutionnaire, peut-être? *NM* damookster - 17/06/2020 06:29:00 PM 273 Views
I'm actually still a reformist, believe it or not. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:29:18 PM 287 Views
Bah *NM* damookster - 18/06/2020 03:36:20 PM 263 Views
I been thinking about the different religious sects of Himboism, suddenly ... Roland00 - 29/06/2020 01:30:09 AM 592 Views
The only state with legitimacy is the Kingdom of Heaven. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:57:26 PM 274 Views
Are we talking about the Mormon Sect? Roland00 - 16/06/2020 09:06:14 PM 544 Views
My bad damookster - 16/06/2020 10:20:14 PM 595 Views
In fairness, I usually talk policy goals as a social democrat. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 12:34:45 AM 591 Views
They The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:29:35 PM 594 Views
damookster - 17/06/2020 06:40:30 PM 593 Views
I go by she and her, but thank you. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:46 PM 310 Views
I try to be very sensitive to this. damookster - 18/06/2020 03:55:01 PM 598 Views
It means a great deal to me. I can't overstate how much it means to your grandson. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:53 PM 315 Views
Catholicism by itself is a Performance Arts Piece Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:17:45 AM 556 Views
A Catholic?! What?! I'm an Episcopalian. Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:24 PM 620 Views
No thanks. Not into non-democracies. *NM* The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:26:29 PM 281 Views
Ah a fellow Devil's Party Member. *NM* Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:13:37 AM 270 Views
I can empathize with this view, actually, though I no longer hold it. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:47:24 PM 290 Views
That's the debate, isn't it. Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:16:10 PM 547 Views
Economists have been arguing this for over 400 years. Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:22:57 PM 583 Views
You could let the market determine that, I guess. Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:56:23 PM 578 Views
Because we do not live in Paradise. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:36:58 PM 554 Views
Exactly. So the worker should own the means of production with other workers. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:11:21 PM 582 Views
So my question then is.... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:46:11 PM 617 Views
Sigh...I just can't not. Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:20:09 AM 538 Views
You know "talent" in the Bible is explictly referring to money, right? Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:43:11 PM 615 Views
Jesus also said it is easier for a camel to pass though a needle's eye... damookster - 18/06/2020 03:49:43 PM 555 Views
This is true! Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:16 PM 606 Views
Thou shalt not steal. *NM* The Shrike - 15/06/2020 11:10:34 PM 267 Views
"Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:19:26 AM 282 Views
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:13:15 PM 250 Views
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. *NM* The Shrike - 16/06/2020 12:15:04 PM 271 Views
"Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you..." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 10:15:41 PM 289 Views
Is a concern of mine gban007 - 08/06/2020 10:16:09 PM 578 Views
A natural experiment fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:42:34 PM 559 Views
Yes, we probably will. But demonstrators wearing masks are not normal life. Ghavrel - 09/06/2020 07:10:31 AM 603 Views
I'm not sure that's a valid comparison. damookster - 09/06/2020 05:57:31 PM 570 Views
Agreed. These aren't comparable situations. fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 06:09:27 PM 585 Views
Down South that is called Communism Mookie. Roland00 - 09/06/2020 06:32:06 PM 585 Views
Alabama is down south, right? aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:08:15 PM 568 Views
I was comparing it to a control situation of no state action in response to SARS-CoV-2. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:09:19 AM 578 Views
We have all the same rules here in Seattle Bad Ash - 10/06/2020 07:45:59 PM 598 Views
I figured you aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:09:36 PM 559 Views
About your original question... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 09:25:38 PM 602 Views
that is encouraging damookster - 17/06/2020 09:44:10 PM 596 Views
Re: that is encouraging fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 10:10:34 PM 540 Views
Seems indoors with strangers is more a predictor than outdoor protests. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 02:38:07 AM 644 Views
Tips, maybe? fionwe1987 - 27/06/2020 05:10:30 AM 597 Views
Perhaps Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:39 PM 535 Views
A 315 city study, BLM protests did not cause a spike in COVID cases. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:05 PM 595 Views
Sigh, here is some bad news. Case Reports and a Lab study suggests COVID may cause type 1 diabetes Roland00 - 28/06/2020 06:11:45 AM 556 Views
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