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I never really understood the obsession with Michelle Obama... Legolas Send a noteboard - 09/02/2024 09:46:41 PM

View original postI started out really liking Haley. Unfortunately, the longer she campaigns, the more she speaks. The more she speaks, the more problematic her candidacy becomes. As you point out, it's ludicrous to categorize Trump's most ardent supporters as conservatives. And that's a minor point.

I think by this point, looking at Haley's career, it's clear she's not exactly the most steadfast, quite capable of changing her position as circumstances require. But she does seem smart and more capable than many other politicians - and not prone to too extreme views. Wouldn't make for a great president, but should make for a tolerable one who inspires more respect than Biden does.

I think I've mentioned this before, but lately I've become increasingly convinced that perhaps the single most important quality in a leader in today's world is to be optimistic and focus on the good things, instead of only dwelling on the bad and seeing decay everywhere. Among right-wing leaders or candidates, Rubio's 2016 campaign comes to mind, as does David Cameron before the unfortunate referendum or Malcolm Turnbull in Australia - whatever else their flaws, that's a big point in their favour, now that we've seen the ugly alternatives. Optimism is a moral duty, indeed. I'm not sure if Haley fully meets that criterium, but she sure comes a lot closer than Trump, in addition to the myriad of other ways she's infinitely preferable.

View original postAs I alluded to in my reply to Elizabeth, the current deep state theory is that this is being manipulated to get Biden to step aside and have the former First Lady gallop in to rescue the Party. When what not long ago would have been dismissed as QANON bullshit begins to almost sound plausible, one can conclude we are surely going to hell in a hand basket.

I get that Michelle Obama has the advantage of having been in the public eye for so long without getting the blame for anything, but just what is it that makes people think her so capable of being president? Especially considering the rather unwelcoming reception that the previous Democratic First Lady with ambitions in that direction got? No doubt Michelle has better people skills and is less open about whatever ambitions she may have than Hillary, but the difference can't be that shallow, can it?

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a “well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” - 09/02/2024 02:41:32 PM 462 Views
I have suspicions about all of this, honestly. - 09/02/2024 03:38:56 PM 217 Views
yeah, me too - 09/02/2024 04:03:45 PM 229 Views
I'd take her in an instant. *NM* - 09/02/2024 05:42:29 PM 95 Views
Many would, but that wasn't my point. - 09/02/2024 05:48:40 PM 213 Views
Oh. That's amusing. *NM* - 09/02/2024 08:28:36 PM 109 Views
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Oh, I think she's unqualified. But Biden is declining rapidly, and Trump is insane. *NM* - 12/02/2024 02:32:33 AM 104 Views
The border is key for many - 12/02/2024 05:41:44 PM 219 Views
Yeah, this is bad. - 09/02/2024 05:11:36 PM 251 Views
Re: Yeah, this is bad. - 09/02/2024 05:45:41 PM 239 Views
I never really understood the obsession with Michelle Obama... - 09/02/2024 09:46:41 PM 228 Views
Re: I never really understood the obsession with Michelle Obama... - 09/02/2024 10:59:29 PM 227 Views
It is literally that shallow - 10/02/2024 12:16:09 AM 242 Views
??? - 09/02/2024 11:00:42 PM 208 Views
I am Elizabeth, and Elizabeth means me! - 09/02/2024 11:21:59 PM 253 Views
Ok, weird - 09/02/2024 11:31:01 PM 229 Views
Oh. Yes. There have been some changes. - 10/02/2024 03:39:42 PM 212 Views
I see what you did there *NM* - 09/02/2024 11:41:47 PM 110 Views
people are going to go a little mad about this aren’t they? - 09/02/2024 06:22:50 PM 214 Views
It's news that the DOJ is making the case - 09/02/2024 10:57:24 PM 232 Views
There's a difference between the occasional slip of the tongue and the assessment in this report. - 09/02/2024 11:24:15 PM 230 Views
This has been going on for a long time - 12/02/2024 02:22:42 PM 211 Views
It's probably going to be Vivek Ramaswamy or Tim Scott or - 12/02/2024 05:33:45 PM 193 Views
Yeah, Noem certainly has been gunning hard for that position as well. - 12/02/2024 06:40:23 PM 195 Views
Because in the Cult of Leadership that is Trumpism - 12/02/2024 07:06:47 PM 238 Views
This is an excellent point that is often overlooked. - 12/02/2024 09:16:09 PM 204 Views
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Such countries do often have pretty poor governance, yes... - 13/02/2024 10:31:51 PM 225 Views
Re: Yeah, Noem certainly has been gunning hard for that position as well. - 12/02/2024 07:42:39 PM 242 Views
Hah. Good point. *NM* - 12/02/2024 11:14:11 PM 152 Views
Bill Maher said pactically the same thing - 09/02/2024 11:52:54 PM 251 Views
Yes - 12/02/2024 02:25:20 PM 206 Views
That was a pretty damning report. - 10/02/2024 03:38:04 AM 235 Views
Meanwhile, Mexico now shares a border with Israel - 11/02/2024 10:45:35 PM 243 Views

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