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Re: Short and sweet rebuttals Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM

View original postA Night Kill is a night kill. Sure, it's possible it was a vigilante thing, but even vigilantes are only barely on the pro-town side of things.

That's not the point at all. The point is that with four victory objectives, she was almost assuredly part of multiple factions, and you have no idea which one has the night kill.


View original postWhen you're in a crowd of unknowns, you need to take some chances. This crowd is a sea of blank faces, except one of those faces has fangs, and is dripping blood. That's more than enough for a lynch in a game of Mafia.

We're in a crowd of unknowns, but we do know something. And that one thing is that the only known murder was almost assuredly not committed by a vampire. That would seem to make vampires the least likely suspects in the game thus far.


View original postEntirely possible- which means we have a VAMPIRE ATTACKING US. How do you not see that as a bad thing?

Because I am concerned with scum factions and night kills, not your mild discomfort. There is no evidence for the vampires being related to either of those.


View original postWhether it works or not is immaterial. I said that the existence of the garlic soap means that there is the possibility of being attacked by undead. You just agreed that it was likely I was attacked by the undead last night.

Or it means that Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler believes that this game is filled with gullible saps willing to pay hard-earned Morale points for completely unproven merchandise that caters to their own fears and biases.

Incidentally, all I said was that it was possible that you were targeted by a vampire last Night. I do not know that you were, and in the context of a mafia game I would certainly not say that you were attacked. You will recall that in the previous game I was referencing, that "attacking vampire" was a townie and critical to the town's eventual victory.


View original postHere's what it boils down to. We agree that there is a strong possibility of the existence of undead that can attack other players. We know of a player who is undead. Why should we not lynch her? What better candidate is there?

Or would you like us to no-lynch, again?


I'm still fine with lynching ranagrande. His flip-flopping actually strongly suggests anti-town play from his actions, not dubious lore extrapolations.

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Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap - 23/12/2013 02:05:56 PM 1598 Views
I was kind of hoping we had a Watch faction that would take out a Hippo tonight. - 23/12/2013 03:22:57 PM 950 Views
I targeted a lot of people and don't know against whom I was successful or not. *NM* - 23/12/2013 11:47:29 PM 661 Views
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *NM* - 24/12/2013 07:46:16 AM 562 Views
"a lot of people" and "don't know" the results - 24/12/2013 08:03:12 AM 936 Views
You oughtn't be so surprised. - 24/12/2013 07:22:47 PM 864 Views
Seems pretty consistent to me - 24/12/2013 07:40:33 PM 1032 Views
...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" - 24/12/2013 09:51:02 PM 800 Views
Re: ...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" - 24/12/2013 10:15:41 PM 821 Views
Re: Seems pretty consistent to me - 25/12/2013 04:09:14 AM 884 Views
I'd like to know if you targetted me, as well. - 25/12/2013 02:17:25 PM 991 Views
Did something happen to you? - 27/12/2013 03:45:20 AM 878 Views
I believe so - 28/12/2013 12:58:24 AM 915 Views
Well? Did you target me? I will make a statement immediately upon your answer. - 29/12/2013 03:52:17 AM 758 Views
Why would I answer? - 29/12/2013 03:59:24 AM 849 Views
Fine, then. Vote: Yunalesca - 30/12/2013 03:59:03 PM 872 Views
Hmm - 01/01/2014 07:01:52 PM 848 Views
I know people are reluctant to lynch "nice" vampires - 02/01/2014 02:44:47 PM 906 Views
On the other hand... - 02/01/2014 06:15:48 PM 893 Views
...you mean the one Night Kill victim we've had? - 02/01/2014 06:56:38 PM 850 Views
So soap trumps night kill? - 04/01/2014 07:08:11 AM 823 Views
Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna - 04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM 935 Views
Re: Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna - 04/01/2014 06:58:57 PM 988 Views
Short and sweet rebuttals - 04/01/2014 07:22:41 PM 996 Views
My initial reaction... - 04/01/2014 10:47:11 PM 867 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM 894 Views
I say that a player likely attacking other players is a higher risk - 05/01/2014 02:37:40 PM 757 Views
Not by your definition of "attacking", no. - 05/01/2014 06:08:49 PM 896 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 06/01/2014 05:24:43 AM 967 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 06/01/2014 05:51:20 AM 883 Views
True, but there is no indication of a different group, is there? *NM* - 04/01/2014 07:37:15 PM 564 Views
Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted - 24/12/2013 07:58:55 AM 907 Views
Fanatic-Templar - Not Guilty *NM* - 25/12/2013 10:18:51 AM 582 Views
Re: Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted - 25/12/2013 11:11:17 AM 834 Views
At first I was like "Waah?", but then I noticed this... - 23/12/2013 09:08:16 PM 958 Views
Hypocop Table - 25/12/2013 02:21:42 PM 817 Views
Praziquantel - Not Guilty *NM* - 27/12/2013 04:58:14 AM 512 Views
FT not guilty *NM* - 27/12/2013 05:06:39 PM 637 Views
Re: Hypocop Table - 28/12/2013 04:12:15 PM 947 Views
Bergioyn - Not Guilty - 02/01/2014 04:23:24 PM 851 Views
Re: Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap - 30/12/2013 10:14:14 AM 953 Views
Happy New Year! - 02/01/2014 02:37:51 PM 843 Views
You too, I'll do my best. *NM* - 04/01/2014 07:35:03 PM 520 Views
Alright so hopefully this will get us to start talking/thinking again - 02/01/2014 09:45:23 PM 1078 Views
I'm guessing it's because of the RPS system - 03/01/2014 03:01:06 AM 883 Views
What is your opinion of my vote towards Yuna? - 03/01/2014 03:04:16 AM 848 Views
Yuna? Do you have any response to my accusation? *NM* - 07/01/2014 12:08:20 AM 505 Views
So, the promised roleclaim (most of it, at least). - 07/01/2014 03:48:16 AM 947 Views
OK, so NOW do you concede that Stephen's NK was from being a vampire? - 07/01/2014 04:29:41 AM 819 Views
? - 07/01/2014 07:38:55 AM 801 Views
Hell, even if this weren't my own information... - 07/01/2014 08:35:33 AM 952 Views
And furthermore... - 07/01/2014 08:41:11 AM 902 Views
He had to get a NK from SOMEWHERE. And if you're dedicated to eliminating NKs... - 07/01/2014 08:54:38 PM 934 Views
No. You do know what an individual role is, don't you? - 07/01/2014 10:06:16 PM 912 Views
...what? - 07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM 835 Views
This is a flawed argument in two entirely separate and divergent ways. - 08/01/2014 01:49:27 AM 843 Views
Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous - 08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM 910 Views
Re: Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous - 08/01/2014 07:25:04 AM 1012 Views
I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch - 08/01/2014 02:17:25 PM 844 Views
Re: I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch - 08/01/2014 06:10:43 PM 950 Views
OK, this makes sense. - 07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM 912 Views
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. - 07/01/2014 08:26:15 PM 799 Views
Oh. Euhm. Wow - 08/01/2014 06:39:57 AM 950 Views
Yeah, that was actually the first thing I asked about during the Night. - 08/01/2014 07:33:10 AM 886 Views
Were you definitely blocked by the Watch? - 08/01/2014 02:45:17 PM 912 Views
Re: Oh. Euhm. Wow - 08/01/2014 05:43:02 PM 1096 Views
Good work, F-T - 08/01/2014 05:40:41 PM 1193 Views
Re: Good work, F-T - 08/01/2014 06:09:56 PM 968 Views
So... you want to lynch me, because I want to lynch scum? - 08/01/2014 08:50:26 PM 847 Views
This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 03:25:02 PM 865 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 05:33:39 PM 896 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 06:42:44 PM 993 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM 1086 Views
Whaaaaaat. We're not nation-building, here. - 10/01/2014 06:04:16 AM 925 Views
And why shouldn't they? - 10/01/2014 04:25:21 AM 1098 Views
What if Stephen wasn't the target? - 09/01/2014 03:11:38 PM 869 Views
VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 04:29:34 AM 946 Views
I'll be looking forward to Sunday then. - 11/01/2014 05:21:57 AM 783 Views
Sounds good to me too. - 11/01/2014 05:41:38 AM 1111 Views
Re: Sounds good to me too. - 11/01/2014 10:14:16 AM 779 Views
Hooray, I can kill people just by wishing! *NM* - 12/01/2014 03:03:49 AM 653 Views
I am certain you will not use that power for evil... *NM* - 12/01/2014 05:09:11 AM 677 Views
RBIRL - 11/01/2014 07:32:49 AM 955 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 10:19:41 AM 930 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 10:25:16 AM 901 Views
Modkill - Yunalesca - 12/01/2014 09:04:40 PM 1135 Views
So... - 13/01/2014 12:57:58 AM 1188 Views
Re: So... - 13/01/2014 07:54:26 AM 921 Views
EBWOP. - 13/01/2014 08:00:13 AM 866 Views
Dwarves and possibly a vampire. - 13/01/2014 07:48:09 PM 862 Views
They're identifiably foreigners. - 13/01/2014 10:05:08 PM 1164 Views
Not strictly true - 14/01/2014 08:55:57 AM 944 Views
Re: Not strictly true - 14/01/2014 09:07:41 AM 1017 Views
I trust Isaac enough to think it was not a mistake. - 15/01/2014 02:44:40 AM 787 Views
This is a reminder that someone stole my necklace and I'm still annoyed about that *NM* - 14/01/2014 06:30:39 PM 739 Views
I'm still annoyed at having my wizard hat stolen too. - 15/01/2014 06:43:41 AM 865 Views
Agreed, there are enough things left open. - 15/01/2014 03:24:29 PM 936 Views
This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? - 15/01/2014 03:25:21 PM 992 Views
Re: This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? - 15/01/2014 07:59:27 PM 889 Views
I agree, those are the most likely candidates. - 16/01/2014 02:47:05 PM 1150 Views
Problem with that is that the known characters in this game are all recurrent. - 16/01/2014 09:05:38 PM 928 Views
WIZARD. They're called WIZARDS. GOD *NM* - 17/01/2014 01:59:42 PM 743 Views
Witches also exist in Discworld. *NM* - 17/01/2014 02:10:24 PM 524 Views
Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night - 16/01/2014 03:04:54 PM 1036 Views
Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 19/01/2014 09:12:56 PM 840 Views
I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins. - 19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM 1045 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 20/01/2014 10:51:15 PM 925 Views
So... how are things with everybody? Doin good? *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:18:07 PM 768 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:38:20 PM 652 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:44:34 PM 646 Views
Vote: Praziquantel *NM* - 23/01/2014 07:14:04 PM 524 Views
I'm not disagreeing, but what's your reasoning? *NM* - 24/01/2014 03:39:51 PM 672 Views
What's been discussed already. - 24/01/2014 11:29:45 PM 823 Views
Well, you know my reasoning - 24/01/2014 10:11:56 PM 742 Views
And this is what I was waiting for. - 24/01/2014 10:48:16 PM 1164 Views
Vote: Praziquantel - 25/01/2014 09:30:54 PM 837 Views
And here you are again. - 26/01/2014 06:52:21 AM 1084 Views
This is enought for me. Vote:ranagrande *NM* - 26/01/2014 11:38:42 AM 524 Views
I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz - 26/01/2014 07:18:45 PM 886 Views
Re: I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz - 26/01/2014 10:30:31 PM 1090 Views
Then maybe I misinterpreted this: - 26/01/2014 11:37:08 PM 879 Views
Wait let me try that again... - 26/01/2014 11:38:48 PM 812 Views
Re: Then maybe I misinterpreted this: - 27/01/2014 02:49:59 AM 1028 Views
Okay fair enough. Unvote. *NM* - 27/01/2014 03:18:34 AM 582 Views
Hm, I think it might be too late to unvote - 27/01/2014 04:09:24 AM 1051 Views
He's right, I didn't check the time stamps - 27/01/2014 07:46:46 PM 1142 Views
Can we get an extension? - 26/01/2014 06:56:08 AM 1102 Views
Seconded. *NM* - 26/01/2014 11:39:05 AM 534 Views
granted - I'll leave it a bit non-specific for now *NM* - 26/01/2014 04:09:00 PM 625 Views
Thank you *NM* - 26/01/2014 07:05:45 PM 546 Views
VNTL is 4 at the moment - 26/01/2014 07:21:53 PM 1168 Views
Vote record Update 1 - 26/01/2014 07:35:43 PM 1101 Views
FT has also voted for ranagrande. *NM* - 26/01/2014 08:00:37 PM 577 Views
Thanks *NM* - 26/01/2014 08:02:13 PM 706 Views
I demand blood! Also he's coming off a bit odd. Vote: Praziquantel *NM* - 27/01/2014 02:37:38 AM 701 Views
Praziquantel has been lynched - 27/01/2014 07:49:45 PM 1100 Views
Twilight has begun - 28/01/2014 01:07:26 AM 1223 Views
Re: Twilight has begun - 28/01/2014 02:06:39 AM 1173 Views

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