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Re: I am kind of confused about what you're doing here. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 22/02/2010 08:07:19 PM
Wow, it's pretty hard to glean anything from this. Most of my stuff is on F&R and White Flame.

First of all, I forgot that I'm still mad at F&R for saving the protection for himself in DK's game. I totally called that I'd be a target that first night O^

Next, F&R seems pretty cautious about bandwagoning- in the "Murder of the Mayor" game, he was against voting unless at least 2 townies had voted first.


Fox also has no problem voting for a fellow DF if he feels the winds are turning:
First of all, sorry Marshall but with what Blaine found, I knew it would turn to a lynch vs you. I wanted to be an early voter to try and escape accusations of bussing. It was really unfortunate but I wasn't about to try to defend you. If I defended two DFs back to back, I'd be lynched next.


White Flame tends to want to kill people who are leading the discussion. He's also paranoid of FT and Isaac- they have super-logic skills:

Throughout the day we've seen how easy it was for everyone to switch over to killing Hobo in a matter of hours. I think we really need to go for either FT, Isaac, or Napoleon. FT and Isaac always keep games going, they think too logically, and usually end up having their side win if they dont get killed by someone who sees them as a primary threat. Napoleon has been doing a little too much talking, and with his helping kill Hobo I think some retaliation may be necessary.





So... yeah. I can't tell if any of this is useful, but there it is.


Cause yeah, this information doesn't really help. I thought we were talking about Ranagrande? And none of this really has anything to do with him. Now it wouldn't make sense for you to be trying to draw attention away from the case against Ranagrande, since you were indeed one of it's main perpetrators. Which you are now denying above in your reply to Isaac. Granted, this might be a illusory correlation simply because your participation in the thread and the discussion of Ranagrande's guilt are concurrent and prominent, but you definitely said multiple times that of all the people who are possible lynchees Today, you'd be most willing to vote for Ranagrande. So that's not exactly "leading the attack," but no one else really is either. Well, Fox is, I suppose. But to be frank, your support of it seems a bit more suspect than his.
beetnemesis's attitude toward me in this game so far has been interesting. I was on his short list of suspects on Day 1 because of a feeling. Then early on on Day 2, he posted an analysis where he concluded that I was probably a townie. After Fox's accusation, he has said that he would support a lynch of me, but only because there don't seem to be any other suspects at the moment. So perhaps in this post he's trying to look for more suspects? But then, as mentioned, it is odd that he continues the attack on me below...

Fox's argument against Ranagrande seems mostly to consist of feelings and whatever he's managed to dredge up from Yesterday and past games, which is an awful shaky foundation for a DF crusade against an innocent target. I have a hard time believing Evil Fox would do that - I don't think a DF would lead a lynch movement like that unless there was phenomenal evidence against some poor townie. A more common scum MO is to sit on the side and tentatively support this, that and the other without actually trying to commit (i.e. spearhead a lynch against a townie), which is what you're doing. Now granted, I'm kind of doing the same thing by virtue of their being such little evidence all around, but I've said that given the case now I would not lynch him.
Yeah. I certainly disagree with Fox and Ravens, but I don't think he's a darkfriend.

But I think it's particularly interesting that you're now denying that you are/were a supporter of lynching Ranagrande, because right now I can think of a total of three people who were vocally supportive for the idea: Fox, you, and myself in an extremely qualified way. I might be missing some people who basically condoned the idea, but by looking through the post titles, no one else really sticks out to me. Isaac's been particularly against it. Everyone else has been kind of noncommittal. Interesting indeed.
It has been interesting. I was very grateful for Isaac's support, especially after having said before that I suspected him. I think in some ways he explained my own thought processes even better than I could have.
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Rafo Mafia 4 Day 2 is over. Gher - 08/02/2010 06:53:53 PM 3565 Views
List of Players Gher - 08/02/2010 06:58:04 PM 1360 Views
This is great, thanks! *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:19:25 AM 860 Views
Vote: Hieshyn Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:25:25 AM 1455 Views
Crap! Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:26:24 AM 1353 Views
Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 08:53:49 PM 1514 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Isaac - 08/02/2010 09:28:57 PM 1327 Views
Hey, by the way, are you Mafia? beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 09:34:46 PM 1467 Views
I am not Hopper Isaac - 08/02/2010 10:37:55 PM 1377 Views
Maybe I am AWESOME beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 11:19:48 PM 1432 Views
Now that's a questionable claim. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 02:36:25 AM 1424 Views
Hah! You underestimate my ego, madam! beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:25:28 AM 1307 Views
A few questions and comments beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 09:29:06 PM 1383 Views
Re: A few questions and comments Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 10:31:32 PM 1386 Views
Re: A few questions and comments beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 11:23:07 PM 1207 Views
Third Party Kronin al'Sulc - 08/02/2010 09:43:57 PM 1245 Views
Re: Third Party Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 10:34:38 PM 1342 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:47:03 AM 1372 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Isaac - 09/02/2010 03:53:18 AM 1354 Views
I thinking Lynching F-T was the right thing to do. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:45:13 AM 1329 Views
RBIRL ... test tomorrow. Probably not going to post tonight. *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 12:03:38 AM 838 Views
You know what? Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:17:52 AM 1332 Views
NO! Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 01:31:57 AM 1289 Views
Re: You know what? Isaac - 09/02/2010 01:34:42 AM 1280 Views
Heh, inorganic chemistry. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:57:39 AM 1337 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:38:45 AM 1336 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. Isaac - 09/02/2010 03:29:32 AM 1391 Views
Oh, I learned all those lessons last year. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:05:04 AM 1291 Views
Re: Oh, I learned all those lessons last year. Isaac - 09/02/2010 04:50:41 AM 1422 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 03:36:28 AM 1362 Views
Well thanks for the encouragement. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:14:50 AM 1520 Views
Heh, Mafia: Other than the occasional lynching or assassination, we're one big supportive family. Gher - 09/02/2010 04:24:26 AM 1329 Views
See, that way the betrayal is personal. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:41:47 AM 1552 Views
Ouch *NM* Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:58:13 PM 841 Views
*NM* Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 01:02:30 AM 771 Views
Hypocop (Table) Kronin al'Sulc - 09/02/2010 12:59:06 AM 1420 Views
Beetnemesis, innocent. *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:17:10 AM 784 Views
Okay Isaac - 09/02/2010 01:29:09 AM 1210 Views
Kronin, innocent. *NM* Hobo - 09/02/2010 01:53:09 AM 739 Views
Isaac, Guilty *NM* ranagrande - 09/02/2010 02:12:07 AM 832 Views
Isaac, innocent *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:37:54 AM 777 Views
I investigated Fox and Ravens and found hi to be for the shadow. *NM* Hieshyn - 09/02/2010 04:46:50 AM 777 Views
Investigated fistofpainx, found him to be innocent *NM* beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:27:37 AM 776 Views
DK, found her innocent *NM* fistofpainx - 09/02/2010 01:48:11 PM 799 Views
Fox and Ravens, Guilty *NM* Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 03:57:50 PM 763 Views
Vote Record (Table) Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:30:51 AM 1400 Views
I'll add: list of players who did NOT vote yesterday beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:46:38 AM 1355 Views
RBIRL Hieshyn - 09/02/2010 04:45:19 AM 1291 Views
Hmmm, Hobo - 09/02/2010 06:18:29 AM 1311 Views
We didn't lose two of our biggest roles. Also- I wonder if there are more roles? beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:35:05 AM 1231 Views
Re: We didn't lose two of our biggest roles. Also- I wonder if there are more roles? Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:16:19 AM 1322 Views
Re: Hmmm, Isaac - 09/02/2010 07:20:02 AM 1255 Views
Yeah, I agree with the Blaine rationalization beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 08:57:19 AM 1310 Views
Huh. Oh boy oh Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 06:39:15 AM 1154 Views
Care to give us your thoughts? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:26:09 AM 818 Views
Well, losing Doc and Deputy same night is bound to cause trouble. Especially losing Doc. *NM* Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 08:54:49 AM 779 Views
Well, yeah... Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:57:26 PM 1451 Views
Re: Well, yeah... Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 07:27:00 PM 1261 Views
I want to throw this out here. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:21:04 AM 1361 Views
What changed your mind? *NM* beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 08:58:09 AM 774 Views
Well, I realized I was the one telling everyone to just vote for someone. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:56:17 PM 1329 Views
*NM* Fanatic-Templar - 10/02/2010 02:56:52 AM 699 Views
I thought you'd like that. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 10/02/2010 01:00:19 PM 703 Views
I was going to post a few thoughts here this morning... ranagrande - 09/02/2010 01:49:26 PM 1314 Views
Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? Hobo - 10/02/2010 12:09:47 AM 1392 Views
What tips me off is the "melted plastic". Kronin al'Sulc - 10/02/2010 12:22:56 AM 1209 Views
Good point. Is an arsonist usually a third party? *NM* Hobo - 10/02/2010 12:28:10 AM 730 Views
That's so arbitrary, though. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 12:57:09 AM 1179 Views
EBWOP: It's probably not a vigilante. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 01:05:57 AM 1414 Views
That seems like good reasoning beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 01:50:47 AM 1341 Views
Re: That seems like good reasoning Isaac - 10/02/2010 01:58:14 AM 1363 Views
That's a vig rule? I did not know that beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 08:16:56 PM 1338 Views
Well, it's pretty common sense. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:09:09 PM 1436 Views
I think he might have been referring to vigilante kills being blockable ranagrande - 10/02/2010 09:43:53 PM 1265 Views
Oh, my bad then! *NM* Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 10:19:13 PM 787 Views
As the resident expert on vigilantism ranagrande - 10/02/2010 08:04:17 PM 1646 Views
Youre the resident expert on vigilantism? *NM* Hobo - 11/02/2010 11:06:24 PM 776 Views
He was a vig once or twice. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 12/02/2010 01:33:57 AM 811 Views
I was the best vigilante you guys have ever had! *NM* ranagrande - 12/02/2010 02:19:57 AM 763 Views
The only vigilante we've ever had. Darth_Katie - 12/02/2010 02:25:20 AM 1264 Views
Wait, haven't you proposed an arsonist most games. *NM* Hobo - 10/02/2010 04:37:33 AM 756 Views
Maybe it's been proposed. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/02/2010 05:19:10 AM 1379 Views
Re: Maybe it's been proposed. Hobo - 10/02/2010 05:56:10 AM 1295 Views
Re: Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? Isaac - 10/02/2010 12:50:51 AM 1499 Views
Re: Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? White Flame of Tar Valon - 10/02/2010 01:11:50 AM 1265 Views
Because we have a SK *NM* Hieshyn - 10/02/2010 05:14:00 AM 724 Views
I agree that we probably have a SK ranagrande - 10/02/2010 07:50:33 PM 1288 Views
Nah, I was just saying *NM* Hieshyn - 11/02/2010 05:06:54 AM 787 Views
wait a minute fistofpainx - 10/02/2010 01:15:32 PM 1340 Views
Sensors? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 10/02/2010 01:42:36 PM 676 Views
Another thing Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 04:42:50 PM 1447 Views
F-T, I assume beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 05:08:58 PM 1275 Views
Probably, might be a hint at an RB but I doubt it *NM* Isaac - 10/02/2010 06:57:01 PM 789 Views
I don't think it could be a RB ranagrande - 10/02/2010 07:47:55 PM 1371 Views
Probably not, but not for that reason Isaac - 10/02/2010 08:32:57 PM 1346 Views
Huh. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:11:29 PM 1344 Views
Did anyone get any messages last night? beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 08:23:03 PM 1278 Views
Nope *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 10/02/2010 08:35:18 PM 755 Views
Me neither. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:14:46 PM 1338 Views
Re: Me neither. ranagrande - 10/02/2010 09:41:19 PM 1458 Views
RBIRL Fox and Ravens - 11/02/2010 04:52:12 PM 1277 Views
Good luck! *NM* Darth_Katie - 11/02/2010 07:05:40 PM 723 Views
Re: RBIRL Isaac - 11/02/2010 09:59:39 PM 1516 Views
We're stalling out a bit Isaac - 11/02/2010 10:05:09 PM 1295 Views
Yep. Darth_Katie - 12/02/2010 02:58:02 AM 1228 Views
We could talk about my heroic failure to defend the innocent some more? Fine... beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 07:12:51 AM 1360 Views
You seem engaged in a very active defense so far this game Isaac - 12/02/2010 09:40:23 PM 1509 Views
Yawn... beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 11:28:50 PM 1472 Views
Re: Yawn... Isaac - 13/02/2010 12:32:30 AM 1434 Views
Re: Yawn... Darth_Katie - 13/02/2010 01:31:41 AM 1378 Views
Re: Yawn... ranagrande - 13/02/2010 02:24:40 AM 1325 Views
He's brought up accusations on himself Isaac - 13/02/2010 02:40:01 AM 1482 Views
Dammit, I had a post and then it got deleted. Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 01:45:31 AM 1296 Views
Alrighty, let's try this again. Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 06:38:26 AM 1166 Views
Always happy to answer your questions beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:35:35 AM 1206 Views
Thanks for the answers. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:29:31 PM 1315 Views
Re: Yawn... beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 02:02:34 AM 1383 Views
Re: Yawn... Isaac - 13/02/2010 02:48:22 AM 1270 Views
On F-T's accusations against you. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 01:54:20 AM 1353 Views
Re: On F-T's accusations against you. Isaac - 14/02/2010 03:43:52 AM 1248 Views
Oh, right, I modded that one. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 04:11:46 AM 1273 Views
That's right, I am the Breaker of Unbroken Records Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 05:56:52 AM 1315 Views
Actually, quite few of my streaks were broken on that one Isaac - 14/02/2010 08:43:09 AM 1238 Views
I'm in second? Woo! Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 02:46:05 PM 1321 Views
Yep, welcome to being a lightning rod Isaac - 14/02/2010 09:10:43 PM 1457 Views
I'm not gonna be as targeted as you; I've died a LOT. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 11:17:24 PM 1320 Views
Ironically I don't think I've ever killed you Isaac - 14/02/2010 11:56:03 PM 1299 Views
Game 1 I remember. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 12:01:21 AM 1194 Views
Re: Game 1 I remember. Isaac - 15/02/2010 12:19:30 AM 1534 Views
Three stalled out over the winter holidays and we had to restart. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 01:26:59 AM 1515 Views
Oh, the MHael Steve incident! Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 04:42:31 AM 1300 Views
The game? Oh, right, that. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 04:41:43 AM 1225 Views
Actually... Gher - 15/02/2010 04:57:50 PM 1414 Views
Sorry, it was my first game. Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 03:34:16 AM 1497 Views
That was my point actually. Gher - 16/02/2010 06:25:17 AM 1390 Views
Those were the good old days. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:21:44 AM 1354 Views
random thoughts ranagrande - 15/02/2010 12:46:55 PM 1266 Views
I wasn't in that game. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:19:06 AM 1273 Views
A second line of thought: ranagrande beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 07:40:37 AM 1582 Views
Argh... quote please Isaac - 12/02/2010 08:54:08 PM 1344 Views
Haha, fair enough beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 11:30:54 PM 1170 Views
I was getting all set to defend myself ranagrande - 13/02/2010 01:21:58 AM 1431 Views
RBIRL White Flame of Tar Valon - 14/02/2010 06:11:55 AM 1358 Views
Back White Flame of Tar Valon - 18/02/2010 02:14:25 AM 1369 Views
Vote: Hieshyn Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:27:04 AM 1177 Views
Re: Hieshyn ranagrande - 15/02/2010 12:54:42 PM 1465 Views
Well, it's less that discussion is winding down, and more that we don't have any new topics beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 05:48:22 PM 1226 Views
That's giving up awfully early. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:35:37 PM 1243 Views
Never give up! Never surrender! ranagrande - 15/02/2010 08:31:19 PM 1380 Views
Well this was unexpected. Hieshyn - 15/02/2010 06:07:44 PM 1279 Views
Re: Well this was unexpected. Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 08:30:57 PM 1291 Views
I think he's saying that he's been quiet because he's busy, not a DF beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 08:39:53 PM 1189 Views
I don't think so Isaac - 16/02/2010 12:09:13 AM 1312 Views
I assumed Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 12:14:16 AM 1286 Views
Re: I assumed Isaac - 16/02/2010 01:28:43 AM 1365 Views
In a way Isaac is right Hieshyn - 16/02/2010 05:24:08 AM 1338 Views
If he was the SK Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:55:38 PM 1393 Views
How many games did you guys play on wotmania, anyway? beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 08:43:04 PM 1278 Views
9 *NM* Gher - 15/02/2010 08:53:23 PM 804 Views
Game 9 was F-T's Cairhienen Civil War/Succession. Gher - 15/02/2010 08:53:03 PM 1266 Views
Oh that's right! Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 09:03:40 PM 1261 Views
We just took that game over. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 10:12:43 PM 1340 Views
Oh yeah, we owned that one Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:48:12 PM 1234 Views
Re: Game 9 was F-T's Cairhienen Civil War/Succession. Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:54:44 PM 1356 Views
Lol irony Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 12:16:49 AM 1319 Views
what I thought was pretty funny fistofpainx - 16/02/2010 12:41:47 AM 1323 Views
Heh heh the Cairhienins would be proud *NM* Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 01:11:13 AM 797 Views
Oh, Isaac got High Seat there, didn't he? Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 01:33:05 AM 1327 Views
That was a fun one. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:32:02 AM 1353 Views
So, it's just because he hasn't been talking much? That fits a lot of people beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 09:31:02 PM 1400 Views
well I really dont have anything worthwhile to say *NM* fistofpainx - 15/02/2010 10:06:11 PM 845 Views
Eh... not good enough beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 12:19:22 AM 1313 Views
Holiday weekend Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:49:37 PM 1280 Views
OK, I'm glad that vote got some discussion flowing. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 02:58:55 AM 1434 Views
Ooo sneaky sneaky Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 03:58:37 AM 1527 Views
Re: Ooo sneaky sneaky Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 04:25:26 AM 1343 Views
It wasn't really a big thing. Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 04:46:54 AM 1392 Views
Re: It wasn't really a big thing. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 05:30:34 AM 1339 Views
You know doing this sort of thing can get you lynched Isaac - 16/02/2010 04:40:23 AM 1396 Views
Oh, I know it can. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 05:23:13 AM 1354 Views
Re: Oh, I know it can. Isaac - 16/02/2010 07:00:53 AM 1410 Views
Since when are you against traps? Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 04:07:05 PM 1264 Views
Since game 4 or 5, roughly Isaac - 16/02/2010 10:57:19 PM 1304 Views
It's weird- I've never played Live Mafia, but I imagine it's very different. beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 08:58:09 AM 1413 Views
I'm glad it did too. ranagrande - 16/02/2010 01:16:14 PM 1343 Views
Regarding Inactivity and whatnot Gher - 16/02/2010 06:22:14 AM 1409 Views
I'm still here, I've been busy with studying, and hadn't realized I was gone this long. Bergioyn - 16/02/2010 06:50:44 AM 1302 Views
RBIRL - exams Thursday *NM* Darth_Katie - 17/02/2010 02:11:27 AM 799 Views
Sorry all. Friday thru Monday suddenly got really hectic, I wasn't home much at all. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:54:02 AM 1330 Views
So, where are we at? Isaac - 18/02/2010 02:40:32 AM 1339 Views
Re: So, where are we at? Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 03:55:33 AM 1361 Views
EBWOP: Issac's maybe only a 5.5. No, a 5.7 beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 06:58:40 AM 1367 Views
OK so I apparantly lack the technical know-how to reply to myself beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:08:36 AM 1453 Views
Re: OK so I apparantly lack the technical know-how to reply to myself Isaac - 18/02/2010 07:54:05 AM 1324 Views
Well yeah, all of that is mostly why I haven't been pushing anything beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 08:51:14 AM 1228 Views
Uggggghhhh...Ok. This post makes me want to vote you off. Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 03:28:19 PM 1255 Views
You seem to have misunbderstood my question Isaac - 18/02/2010 04:28:47 PM 1271 Views
Re: You seem to have misunbderstood my question Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 05:10:14 PM 1450 Views
Nice little typo I have there on misundertood, that's gonna be nagging at me for all of Day 2 Isaac - 18/02/2010 05:25:49 PM 1277 Views
My post, "Re: Hieshyn" ranagrande - 18/02/2010 06:32:12 PM 1490 Views
Re: Nice little typo I have there on misundertood, that's gonna be nagging at me for all of Day 2 Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 04:45:25 AM 1269 Views
Thanks, all right let's review it Isaac - 19/02/2010 11:41:19 AM 1310 Views
A few thoughts ranagrande - 19/02/2010 03:22:32 PM 1264 Views
Alright then. Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 05:20:39 PM 1086 Views
EBWOP Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 05:23:06 PM 1406 Views
Haha, I'm sorry beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 05:49:00 PM 1261 Views
Re: EBWOP Isaac - 19/02/2010 06:53:08 PM 1402 Views
Naive? beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 07:13:14 PM 1408 Views
Naive or sinister, take your pick Isaac - 19/02/2010 07:29:09 PM 1359 Views
We could go with "arrogant," instead of either of those, if you like beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 01:59:22 AM 1151 Views
Hmm...well here's something interesting now that you reminded me of that game... Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 08:26:33 PM 1238 Views
Re: Hmm...well here's something interesting now that you reminded me of that game... Isaac - 19/02/2010 08:40:47 PM 1228 Views
That's true- I've said as much earlier in this thread beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 02:08:47 AM 1307 Views
Re: EBWOP White Flame of Tar Valon - 19/02/2010 08:32:55 PM 1233 Views
Re: EBWOP Isaac - 19/02/2010 08:57:50 PM 1230 Views
Speaking of that game Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:03:18 AM 1291 Views
Re: Speaking of that game Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:24:16 PM 1291 Views
Actually, that reminds me. HEY KRONIN! beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:09:39 AM 1297 Views
Hey. Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 04:09:08 PM 1325 Views
Re: Hey. White Flame of Tar Valon - 18/02/2010 05:19:30 PM 1346 Views
Re: Hey. ranagrande - 18/02/2010 06:50:35 PM 1275 Views
Re: Hey. Isaac - 18/02/2010 05:37:33 PM 1437 Views
FT had no evidence one way or the other if Issac was a DF beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 05:44:43 PM 1233 Views
Don't put words in my mouth. Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 06:03:55 PM 1400 Views
Oh no, I know, I know. I'm just saying, FT has no more credibility than any of us *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:48:58 PM 801 Views
Well OK, a BIT more, because we know he was townie *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:49:34 PM 789 Views
But he IS a damn good player, and his advice, however limited, should be taken into account. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 07:49:58 PM 768 Views
Fair enough *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 08:19:04 PM 748 Views
fistofpainx, Do you have any thoughts? beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 05:46:38 PM 1326 Views
I think that fistofpainx - 18/02/2010 09:45:56 PM 1378 Views
Well, if my combine the Vote Record with our previous suspicions... Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 09:48:24 PM 1282 Views
All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 11:32:07 PM 1287 Views
Re: All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? Isaac - 19/02/2010 03:01:45 AM 1222 Views
Re: All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 04:07:03 AM 1357 Views
I think you're overestimating the appearance of your own innocence. Darth_Katie - 19/02/2010 05:38:53 AM 1264 Views
Yeah, it's mostly just about getting the conversation going beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 06:40:17 AM 1321 Views
About voting ranagrande - 19/02/2010 03:33:34 PM 1342 Views
Idk if that question about voting can be answered. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:15:21 AM 1363 Views
In response to Fox and Ravens (down here to stop horizontal scroll) Gher - 19/02/2010 09:50:16 PM 1350 Views
Re: In response to Fox and Ravens (down here to stop horizontal scroll) Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 10:22:37 PM 1377 Views
I agree ranagrande - 20/02/2010 02:52:53 PM 1173 Views
Should be fine.. although, maybe only paraphrase? beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 02:03:30 AM 1271 Views
Well, the reason for the prohibition doesn't apply post-game, so I'll go with no Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:07:38 AM 1277 Views
Seems pretty thorough to me! I pretty much agree. *NM* Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 05:12:40 AM 772 Views
After seeing this thread.... Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 05:53:47 AM 1188 Views
Go ahead and start one then. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:08:12 AM 1319 Views
Re: Go ahead and start one then. Isaac - 20/02/2010 06:47:23 AM 1420 Views
Isaac, did you say you have Cor's original rules saved somewhere? Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 04:50:29 PM 1420 Views
Re: Isaac, did you say you have Cor's original rules saved somewhere? Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:16:09 PM 1474 Views
Well, these are as good a starting point as any. Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 05:22:34 PM 1268 Views
I think quoting NBs from other games is okay. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 05:15:55 AM 1318 Views
Quoting or paraphrasing is fine IMO *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 20/02/2010 05:31:45 AM 847 Views
Fox and Ranagrande Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:30:53 AM 1408 Views
Some comments... Fox and Ravens - 20/02/2010 07:54:02 PM 1369 Views
Alright. Gher - 20/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 1367 Views
Thanks Fox and Ravens - 20/02/2010 07:48:20 PM 1230 Views
Re: Thanks Isaac - 20/02/2010 10:35:26 PM 1219 Views
Ranagrande *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 12:55:29 AM 745 Views
Really? beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 01:58:24 AM 1304 Views
Go back and look at the NB for yourself. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 04:29:54 AM 809 Views
That's hilarious. *NM* Darth_Katie - 21/02/2010 06:47:57 PM 771 Views
Re: Thanks beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 01:57:25 AM 1312 Views
I do have a question Isaac - 21/02/2010 07:12:57 PM 1380 Views
A prosaic explanation- (and an objection) beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 09:13:43 PM 1366 Views
Well, you kind of said it yourself. Darth_Katie - 21/02/2010 07:38:32 PM 1275 Views
I'm purposefully trying to not be so focussed on ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:06:40 PM 1363 Views
Not sure I follow Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 06:49:11 PM 1388 Views
Because I might just be blinding myself here. Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:40:15 PM 1381 Views
Oh, okay. That does make sense. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:52:10 PM 1490 Views
I think I do ranagrande - 22/02/2010 07:47:56 PM 1259 Views
I'm purposefully trying to not be so focussed on ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:06:40 PM 1275 Views
EBWOP - sorry, double post *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:34:21 PM 778 Views
Items of note from my NB archive: beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 09:37:49 PM 1446 Views
I am kind of confused about what you're doing here. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:20:49 PM 1482 Views
I'm feeling the same thing. Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:36:46 PM 1330 Views
I hadn't even seen Beet's post at the bottom there until after I'd posted this. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:44:49 PM 1302 Views
Re: I am kind of confused about what you're doing here. ranagrande - 22/02/2010 08:07:19 PM 1305 Views
Re: Rafo Mafia 4 Day 2 Bergioyn - 22/02/2010 12:09:20 PM 1397 Views
Alright. Here's a quick synposis Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:54:19 PM 1368 Views
That sounds about right to me. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:58:29 PM 1332 Views
I'll try to, I just may not have the time to. If I do, I'll definately read them all. *NM* Bergioyn - 23/02/2010 07:05:24 AM 707 Views
(My two cents) beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 08:35:17 PM 1354 Views
Dude. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 08:53:30 PM 1361 Views
Re: Dude. beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:45:52 PM 1305 Views
Thanks. Bergioyn - 23/02/2010 07:04:29 AM 1381 Views
Another minor piece against ranagrande beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 07:13:44 PM 1384 Views
You didn't read the entirety of my quote post did you? Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:42:14 PM 1386 Views
Actually, I do have a small confession to make about that... ranagrande - 22/02/2010 08:14:08 PM 1465 Views
Re: Another minor piece against ranagrande Isaac - 22/02/2010 08:23:48 PM 1499 Views
Fair enough beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 08:38:51 PM 1448 Views
Re: Fair enough Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 09:07:57 PM 1356 Views
Re: Fair enough Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 09:07:57 PM 1306 Views
Numbers? beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:36:51 PM 1461 Views
Re: Numbers? Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 10:21:13 PM 1458 Views
I don't think he's innocent. OR a DF beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 10:42:16 PM 1260 Views
Maybe I missed it.... Kronin al'Sulc - 22/02/2010 09:26:47 PM 1416 Views
Re: Maybe I missed it.... beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:38:09 PM 1292 Views
Re: Maybe I missed it.... White Flame of Tar Valon - 23/02/2010 09:38:23 PM 1263 Views
I will destroy the world beetnemesis - 23/02/2010 11:17:26 PM 1404 Views
And yet, that's the exact same thing you called me out on yesterday. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 01:07:07 AM 681 Views
Ok, that's totally different... beetnemesis - 24/02/2010 06:36:00 AM 1260 Views
All that's different is the presumed final intent. Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 12:36:32 PM 1378 Views
Yeah ... those are pretty much the same. *NM* Darth_Katie - 24/02/2010 03:17:25 PM 672 Views
Yea.... beet's looking worse and worse every time he opens his mouth, so to speak. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 09:00:47 PM 770 Views
No, this is my view: beetnemesis - 24/02/2010 11:23:25 PM 1402 Views
And my view was: Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 01:29:13 AM 1288 Views
shrug. I haven't been attacking you today, you know beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 01:46:39 AM 1353 Views
I'm just pointing out the irony. Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 01:52:07 AM 1289 Views
Re: I'm just pointing out the irony. beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 06:47:45 AM 1323 Views
Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM* Hieshyn - 24/02/2010 04:51:24 AM 765 Views
Can I ask why? Fox and Ravens - 24/02/2010 05:06:22 AM 1304 Views
I'd be very interested in seeing an explanation as well *NM* ranagrande - 24/02/2010 08:04:30 PM 779 Views
Ditto. *NM* Darth_Katie - 24/02/2010 08:09:31 PM 778 Views
My, my, how totally unexpected Isaac - 24/02/2010 01:01:42 PM 1364 Views
Reasoning would be nice *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 24/02/2010 10:13:43 PM 771 Views
Eh? *NM* beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 01:47:19 AM 763 Views
Hieshyn I will DESTROY you beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 01:41:25 AM 1283 Views
We're sort of in a holding pattern here, Hieshyn Isaac - 25/02/2010 07:01:23 PM 1466 Views
You're right, Isaac. Fox and Ravens - 25/02/2010 08:47:03 PM 1467 Views
Though I presume this was already somewhat obvious, ^Seconded. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 08:56:19 PM 686 Views
I'll agree. Beet has been suspicious, and we havent found enough with ranagrande to continue *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 26/02/2010 02:00:36 AM 797 Views
Hieshyns and Foxes and Beets! Oh my! ranagrande - 26/02/2010 02:59:51 PM 1367 Views
At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap beetnemesis - 26/02/2010 01:44:16 AM 1368 Views
Re: At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap Fox and Ravens - 26/02/2010 06:10:33 AM 1389 Views
Re: At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap beetnemesis - 26/02/2010 07:00:02 AM 1422 Views
RBIRL. Had a lot of school stuff, gone for the weekend. Sorry. *NM* Hobo - 27/02/2010 01:05:40 AM 771 Views
Sorry I've been insanely busy. Hieshyn - 27/02/2010 03:33:43 AM 1445 Views
Here's what I'm getting from this: beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 06:49:22 AM 1335 Views
Could be Hieshyn - 27/02/2010 06:16:30 PM 1295 Views
Re: Could be Isaac - 27/02/2010 07:15:07 PM 1394 Views
This seems a lot like an OMGUS. Kronin al'Sulc - 27/02/2010 07:02:12 AM 1265 Views
Well, we have a very weird situation here Isaac - 27/02/2010 05:13:12 PM 1371 Views
Re: Well, we have a very weird situation here White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 05:40:16 PM 1177 Views
Re: Sorry I've been insanely busy. Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 07:06:39 AM 1342 Views
Re: Sorry I've been insanely busy. beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 07:55:13 AM 1248 Views
Gotcha, thanks. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 08:07:21 AM 791 Views
Okay, let's try to finish off today Isaac - 27/02/2010 07:27:09 PM 1373 Views
Re: Okay, let's try to finish off today White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 08:24:14 PM 1532 Views
Interesting. Darth_Katie - 27/02/2010 09:28:33 PM 1285 Views
I sort of assumed everyone knew where I'm aiming, I've been pretty open about it Isaac - 27/02/2010 09:45:50 PM 1340 Views
Oh, right. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 04:32:13 AM 1206 Views
Vote: ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 09:12:51 PM 1276 Views
Hmmm White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 11:31:52 PM 1194 Views
Re: Hmmm beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 12:41:07 AM 1336 Views
What, if anything, has changed? Isaac - 28/02/2010 03:19:49 AM 1293 Views
Dang, I didn't know you could make text larger. Fancy! *NM* Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 04:57:28 AM 736 Views
A little joke Isaac - 28/02/2010 05:16:14 AM 2044 Views
Haha nice. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 05:41:14 AM 1430 Views
Re: Haha nice. Isaac - 28/02/2010 06:29:58 AM 1993 Views
Woah, that's a pretty sneaky trick with the quote links. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 07:14:22 AM 1271 Views
Oh, and RBIRL: midterms week. *NM* Darth_Katie - 27/02/2010 09:35:25 PM 774 Views
Yikes (warning: lots of text) beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 12:35:16 AM 1292 Views
Why do you keep calling my death inevitable? Isaac - 28/02/2010 02:51:26 AM 1278 Views
Because you have often said you're a lightning rod beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 07:48:14 AM 1414 Views
Guess I'll set up the other camp: Vote: beetnemesis Kronin al'Sulc - 28/02/2010 03:22:49 AM 1289 Views
fair enough White Flame of Tar Valon - 28/02/2010 04:40:02 AM 1235 Views
Yeah, I would like an explanation. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 05:00:55 AM 1269 Views
Vote: beetnemesis White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:18:00 AM 1347 Views
EBWOP White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:20:24 AM 1275 Views
"Jumpy?" beetnemesis - 01/03/2010 05:47:37 AM 1227 Views
Re: "Jumpy?" White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/03/2010 05:35:50 AM 1355 Views
I GUESS I'll contribute my opinion. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 06:15:36 AM 1376 Views
What a rebel beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 07:52:50 AM 1263 Views
me and beet ranagrande - 28/02/2010 01:03:59 PM 1371 Views
my stance on voting fistofpainx - 01/03/2010 03:08:33 AM 1405 Views
Re: my stance on voting White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:21:32 AM 1433 Views
well the reason my not posting as much fistofpainx - 01/03/2010 04:03:26 AM 1314 Views
Re: well the reason my not posting as much White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 05:28:48 AM 1229 Views
Do you get a ring for voting abstinence? Hieshyn - 01/03/2010 04:56:57 AM 1435 Views
LOL *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 05:26:14 AM 742 Views
RBIRL until thursday. Bergioyn - 01/03/2010 07:06:50 AM 1248 Views
You undecided people really need to make up your minds Fox and Ravens - 01/03/2010 07:32:42 PM 1323 Views
Seriously, the suspense is killing me *NM* beetnemesis - 02/03/2010 05:30:26 PM 748 Views
Agreed, this is really getting ridiculous *NM* Isaac - 02/03/2010 08:06:12 PM 849 Views
Perhaps a deadline would liven things up? Gher - 02/03/2010 08:46:35 PM 1281 Views
Please Fox and Ravens - 02/03/2010 09:12:36 PM 1328 Views
beetnemesis - 02/03/2010 11:20:19 PM 1450 Views
Re: Fox and Ravens - 02/03/2010 11:49:21 PM 1343 Views
Did you unvote? Gher - 03/03/2010 04:22:52 AM 1382 Views
I always forget that! Fox and Ravens - 03/03/2010 01:04:09 PM 1263 Views
I'm sorry. Darth_Katie - 03/03/2010 03:54:56 AM 1340 Views
But... I'm much more interesting than some stupid "book!" beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 04:11:02 AM 1283 Views
Its Hammer Time! Hieshyn - 03/03/2010 05:25:27 AM 1318 Views
Re: Its Hammer Time! White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/03/2010 05:32:34 AM 1244 Views
I hope you all feel really guilty about this beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 06:22:57 AM 1195 Views
Not likely, we're pretty draconian about lynches these days Isaac - 03/03/2010 09:15:00 AM 1180 Views
..I can and HAVE rebutted these. beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:15:32 PM 1259 Views
EBWOP: I need to start hitting preview to make sure the formatting is right. beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:18:43 PM 1236 Views
I'm sorry, I am not convinced Isaac - 03/03/2010 11:16:36 PM 1192 Views
I figured it'd be meaningless to RC, but ok... beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 01:54:36 AM 1271 Views
Well you figured very wrong Isaac - 04/03/2010 01:57:09 AM 1419 Views
All right, let's look at this Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:06:58 AM 1386 Views
This is a very interesting development ranagrande - 04/03/2010 02:22:46 AM 1412 Views
Ditto. Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 02:28:18 AM 1525 Views
Re: All right, let's look at this White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:46:38 AM 1170 Views
Gosh. beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 04:01:04 AM 1313 Views
I find this very, very, very, VERY unlikely. Fox and Ravens - 04/03/2010 05:25:41 AM 1409 Views
We're only waiting on Bergioyn and Fist, I believe. Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 05:56:36 AM 1298 Views
Now we are down to Fist White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:47:22 PM 1229 Views
At this point I feel like anything I could say would only hurt my case beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 06:34:43 AM 1326 Views
You brought this upon yourself. Kronin al'Sulc - 03/03/2010 01:06:58 PM 1270 Views
Your fencing smiley has dulled my scathing retort beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:19:49 PM 1355 Views
Kronin al'Sulc - 03/03/2010 05:34:11 PM 1371 Views
I'm back. Hobo - 03/03/2010 07:32:24 PM 1381 Views
I'll give it a shot beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 08:19:01 PM 1402 Views
Are you a Town Roleblocker? (Table) - Summary: All 'No' Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:28:55 AM 1443 Views
No. *NM* Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 02:29:51 AM 807 Views
No *NM* ranagrande - 04/03/2010 02:31:43 AM 798 Views
Nope. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/03/2010 02:32:54 AM 718 Views
Re: Are you a Town Roleblocker? (Table) *NM* Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:34:19 AM 761 Views
Ignore, hit 'reply' instead of 'edit' I think *NM* Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:36:02 AM 687 Views
No *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:40:15 AM 814 Views
No *NM* Hieshyn - 04/03/2010 04:44:27 AM 753 Views
No, sir *NM* Fox and Ravens - 04/03/2010 05:20:43 AM 860 Views
Nope. *NM* Hobo - 04/03/2010 05:25:10 AM 736 Views
No. *NM* Bergioyn - 04/03/2010 01:54:15 PM 764 Views
no *NM* fistofpainx - 05/03/2010 03:52:07 AM 776 Views
Well, I don't think there is much point in further delay Isaac - 04/03/2010 11:44:57 PM 1182 Views
To the roleblocker: beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 01:46:50 AM 1385 Views
That's everyone, Vote: Beetnemesis *NM* Isaac - 05/03/2010 04:06:03 AM 779 Views
I think that's everyone. Darth_Katie - 05/03/2010 04:39:23 AM 1197 Views
I wouldn't jump on fist- he seems like he just rarely posts beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 06:21:34 AM 1500 Views
Also: Someone kill me! Eh, screw it. beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 06:27:29 AM 1440 Views
RBIRL White Flame of Tar Valon - 05/03/2010 05:17:54 AM 1237 Views
Well, Beet already hammered. Hobo - 05/03/2010 06:44:08 AM 1296 Views
Hah! It's like a ghost! Or a lame-duck president beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 07:22:42 AM 1333 Views
Not a bad idea Isaac - 05/03/2010 08:13:59 AM 1368 Views
Beetnemesis has been lynched Gher - 05/03/2010 05:38:05 PM 1337 Views
Sorry Beet! *NM* Fox and Ravens - 06/03/2010 05:11:56 AM 758 Views
You shall be the only one I don't haunt *NM* beetnemesis - 06/03/2010 06:29:23 AM 681 Views
Yo, what did I do to you? *NM* Hieshyn - 06/03/2010 06:47:51 PM 832 Views
I meant of those who lynched me! You shall be EXALTED! beetnemesis - 06/03/2010 06:52:39 PM 1409 Views
Hmm... tell me more about this robot-heaven ranagrande - 06/03/2010 09:15:57 PM 1403 Views
In both places, the humans are our slaves beetnemesis - 07/03/2010 06:48:29 PM 1437 Views
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