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Journey to Star Wars: The Force Awakens gban007 Send a noteboard - 19/12/2015 06:07:16 PM

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With most people just watching the movies, and not likely to read all the new books released recently / play the various games, I'm a believer that the movies should be self explanatory without reliance on the other material.

Unfortunately, I get the impression that here there is a bit that is perhaps explained in the books, but perhaps they thought it wasn't required in the movie?

My vague understanding of the situation from what I have read of synopses of books is that:

After ROTJ, the Empire was still around and fighting to hold on, there was a big battle at Jakku, where the Empire was decisively defeated, and so the Galaxy was then split in two - the remnants of the Empire and the new Republic.

The Empire eventually became the New Order, and a resistance against the New Order within the New Order territory formed, with covert support from the Republic. So the Republic in theory had a Navy / Army (and I believe this was mentioned in the movie), but wasn't at war with the New Order so not involved in fights.

I also believe that the New Order / Empire were firm believers in strength in Order / dictatorship / military rule, vs the potential issues in democracy.


I am assuming you're not talking about all that Expanded Universe stuff that was declared to no longer be canon once they started producing these movies.

So what books are you talking about?


Been released the later half of this year, the below link provides some information.
Journey to Star Wars: The Force Awakens
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Star Wars : The Force Awakens review (spoiler free) Sidious - 17/12/2015 09:18:26 AM 2547 Views
Love your review! I'm seeing it tomorrow night at 9pm. Can't wait! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 18/12/2015 01:20:16 AM 891 Views
Pretty much agree. I also give 9/10 despite of noticing some flaws. ironclad - 18/12/2015 08:50:49 AM 1578 Views
Re: Pretty much agree. I also give 9/10 despite of noticing some flaws. DomA - 20/12/2015 12:46:52 AM 1425 Views
Re: Pretty much agree. I also give 9/10 despite of noticing some flaws. ironclad - 20/12/2015 10:28:47 AM 1557 Views
Some (relatively spoiler free) thoughts Cannoli - 18/12/2015 12:27:22 PM 1605 Views
I pretty much agree with most of that. ironclad - 18/12/2015 01:05:16 PM 1546 Views
Agreed, Driver did a great job..... Anonymous2000 - 19/12/2015 05:46:44 AM 1390 Views
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The books... fionwe1987 - 21/12/2015 09:05:28 PM 1486 Views
Re: The books... DomA - 22/12/2015 03:12:52 AM 1413 Views
In general agreement ** potential Spoilers ** gban007 - 19/12/2015 06:06:23 AM 1372 Views
There are books? Cannoli - 19/12/2015 11:19:07 AM 1414 Views
Re: There are books? DomA - 19/12/2015 05:41:45 PM 1469 Views
So Darth Plagieus might still be in? Sweet. Cannoli - 20/12/2015 04:44:21 AM 1372 Views
Palpatine's master? DomA - 20/12/2015 02:25:45 PM 1413 Views
I mean the novel of that name. Cannoli - 22/12/2015 09:47:16 PM 1361 Views
Re: I mean the novel of that name. DomA - 22/12/2015 10:05:49 PM 1443 Views
Yeah, I think we're talking about the same one. Cannoli - 24/12/2015 12:05:57 AM 1349 Views
Journey to Star Wars: The Force Awakens gban007 - 19/12/2015 06:07:16 PM 1446 Views
I don't think any of that had to be explained. random thoughts - 19/12/2015 12:16:07 PM 1324 Views
I'm more or less in complete agreement (spoilers) DomA - 19/12/2015 08:22:21 PM 1453 Views
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I agree whole heartedly with everything except two things... (spoilers) MightyYT - 08/01/2016 04:38:23 AM 1624 Views
Also, SPOILER thoughts. Cannoli - 18/12/2015 01:00:32 PM 1603 Views
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Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. Sports_Gambler - 19/12/2015 12:19:10 AM 1556 Views
Well gban007 - 19/12/2015 05:53:56 AM 1379 Views
Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. Sidious - 19/12/2015 07:46:06 AM 1572 Views
people forget they were kids movies *NM* random thoughts - 19/12/2015 01:17:10 AM 861 Views
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Re: 'Revenge of the Sith' (3rd prequel) was actually a decent movie Duke - 29/12/2015 06:05:05 AM 1415 Views
BTW, Daniel Craig is totally forgiven for Spectre. He was a Stormtrooper (spoilers for role) Cannoli - 18/12/2015 11:40:44 PM 1334 Views
Yip that's true *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2015 07:46:59 AM 849 Views
And Simon Pegg was the alien who ran the trading post Rey always went to *NM* ironclad - 20/12/2015 02:30:59 PM 927 Views
I got the impression he was actually her boss or contractor Cannoli - 28/12/2015 12:48:48 PM 1491 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 29/12/2015 12:08:58 AM 1419 Views
Absolutely, yes *NM* ironclad - 29/12/2015 01:54:52 PM 895 Views
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Your Mom has no originality or logic! *NM* Cannoli - 29/12/2015 11:39:41 AM 892 Views
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Is Luke still the hero? As loud as the fans may be, you don't get to these numbers with them alone. Legolas - 31/12/2015 07:06:05 PM 1356 Views
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I don't think it was Disney's business acumen. Tom - 06/01/2016 06:59:46 PM 1560 Views
Wow. That's... sad. Legolas - 06/01/2016 09:32:37 PM 1435 Views
Re: Wow. That's... sad. DomA - 08/01/2016 03:08:58 AM 1395 Views
I am noit sure how well that 7-12 girl demographic will work in merchandising random thoughts - 08/01/2016 06:30:47 PM 1378 Views
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The culture wars are just about blacks and feminists. Tom - 13/01/2016 02:31:20 AM 1377 Views
All that Paul said DomA - 17/01/2016 05:13:59 PM 2028 Views
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LOL Sidious - 05/01/2016 06:33:50 PM 1334 Views
Funny that people use strwmen arguments to make themsleves feel smart random thoughts - 08/01/2016 04:22:22 PM 1425 Views
It's not a straw man Sidious - 08/01/2016 04:52:03 PM 1386 Views
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Male leads, sure, but it wasn't just the leads. Legolas - 04/01/2016 11:28:12 PM 1389 Views
Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close random thoughts - 05/01/2016 05:55:51 PM 1349 Views
I don't see how it makes sense to compare their roles, but Finn is certainly plenty strong. Legolas - 05/01/2016 07:38:05 PM 1412 Views
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Re: Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story Sidious - 06/01/2016 05:50:08 PM 1367 Views
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Re: I don't have an issue with a strong female jedi Sidious - 07/01/2016 03:26:34 PM 1399 Views
The reall issue it looks like Luke sucked as Jedi master random thoughts - 07/01/2016 07:14:31 PM 1318 Views
Sorry, no. Legolas - 06/01/2016 06:56:09 PM 1417 Views
What a load of crap. fionwe1987 - 08/01/2016 10:29:35 AM 1302 Views
I only partially agree Sidious - 08/01/2016 03:27:10 PM 1442 Views
Sorry if science isn't your thing but no what I said is true random thoughts - 09/01/2016 11:49:15 PM 1451 Views
Re: Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close fionwe1987 - 08/01/2016 10:01:16 AM 1280 Views
Well said *NM* ironclad - 05/01/2016 12:01:25 PM 903 Views
Because it isn't "subtraction"... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2016 09:33:24 AM 1322 Views
Of course it is random thoughts - 09/01/2016 10:19:53 PM 1290 Views
Okay so about the big bad guy *spoilers* Sidious - 05/01/2016 06:27:37 PM 1377 Views
I may be alone on this, but... Legolas - 05/01/2016 08:07:26 PM 1392 Views
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Andy Serkis confirmed that Snoke is "just Snoke" and a new character. DomA - 08/01/2016 03:39:47 AM 1397 Views
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Of course an actor would have to lie at this point. I'd expect him to. ironclad - 09/01/2016 01:14:09 PM 2090 Views
Re: Of course an actor would have to lie at this point. I'd expect him to. Sidious - 09/01/2016 06:58:07 PM 1356 Views
I think it's pretty obvious... Duke - 17/01/2016 07:43:19 AM 1493 Views
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