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Re: I'm tired of passive story telling. CupofDice Send a noteboard - 05/09/2009 10:42:57 PM
Anyone else ever get tired of the action occurring offstage and being forced to learn about it through character monologues after the fact?

It's been happening over the last several books more and more often. The most egregious example was Rand's meeting with Logain. It's the lazy way to tell a story. Rather than write the action as it happens, just let a character remember it.

I was disappointed in the chapter, not because of the writing, nor do I think it is Sanderson's fault, but it was another 6500 pages with nothing happening. Why not tell the story of the escape, or Rand's healing, or present some of the questioning scenes?

Flame Away! :)


What in the world are you talking about?

6500 pages? Typo right?

The story of the escape? What escape?

Rand's healing? Ah, Rand was healed in KoD. We saw it.

Questioning scene? Yeah, that seems really interesting. Watching Semi answer nothing.

I do agree that too much happens off camera (thinking of the Mat-Couladin fight), but it is too early to judge TGS.
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You're forgetting one thing. Cannoli - 06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM 2133 Views
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because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Apsalar Shadowdancer - 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM 1845 Views
I'm tired of passive story telling. Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM 1813 Views
On the other hand... Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:58:21 PM 1902 Views
Re: I'm tired of passive story telling. CupofDice - 05/09/2009 10:42:57 PM 1756 Views
Which escape? Marshall - 05/09/2009 11:10:01 PM 1758 Views
I'm tired of mindless readers Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM 1900 Views
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Your best yet Dom! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 02:04:40 PM 1066 Views
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Re: I'm tired of mindless readers NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 10:42:29 PM 1743 Views
I was over critical. Haggard - 06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM 1698 Views
A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM 1876 Views
It's been happening since Book IV btw. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:30:52 PM 1539 Views
Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM 1808 Views
A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM 2023 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) RandAllThor - 05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM 1937 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM 1768 Views
I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter. Werthead - 06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM 1725 Views
I don't really agree... lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:50:08 AM 1720 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM 1682 Views
Just answer one question... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:53:12 AM 2199 Views
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On Egwene... fionwe1987 - 10/09/2009 04:33:58 PM 1734 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) MissKoalaVB - 07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM 1816 Views
Answers, short, long and longer. NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 11:27:53 PM 1771 Views
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I think you missed some things. (spoilers) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:21:43 PM 1514 Views
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Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM 1532 Views
First thought...a typo! ner vous = nervous. *NM* Marshall - 05/09/2009 09:55:28 PM 1151 Views
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six questions and nine statements RabidWombat - 06/09/2009 04:47:52 AM 1773 Views
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Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM 1719 Views
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Re: Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:53:20 AM 1722 Views
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Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM 2624 Views
Also AliasRY - 06/09/2009 08:24:45 AM 1728 Views
A simpler answer NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM 1813 Views
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Look at what he has seen... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM 1609 Views
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Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already Cannoli - 07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM 1826 Views
She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM* redhand - 07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM 1022 Views
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uh Deadsy - 09/09/2009 10:57:17 PM 1665 Views
Timeline? Deadsy - 07/09/2009 05:10:16 AM 1712 Views
Re: Timeline? NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 05:52:50 PM 1667 Views
So what chapter symbol is it going to have? *NM* Cannoli - 07/09/2009 08:09:54 AM 990 Views
the dragon in COT chap 23 ornaments *NM* rosco12 - 07/09/2009 01:28:58 PM 983 Views
The Seanchan are up to something Knightscape - 07/09/2009 10:26:23 AM 1706 Views
Red stone doorway. Bigerich - 07/09/2009 03:27:22 PM 1584 Views
The whole thing was explained by Rand in KoD. So no, not new. fionwe1987 - 07/09/2009 06:35:01 PM 1586 Views
No Deadsy - 07/09/2009 07:57:57 PM 1580 Views
Questions, Comments Thoughts and Theories about tGS Orlin_Artemi - 07/09/2009 09:09:05 PM 1771 Views
My thoughts are that the main page is being crowded by too many duplicate threads Lord o' Salv - 07/09/2009 10:23:41 PM 1717 Views
Hrm... Sidious - 08/09/2009 05:28:19 AM 1780 Views
Enjoyed it lodlom - 08/09/2009 01:35:03 AM 1696 Views
Ready for More Raforsaken - 08/09/2009 04:25:19 PM 1719 Views
... Seventysix - 08/09/2009 07:24:46 PM 1640 Views
Not sure what I expected, but not this... Myrdhyn - 09/09/2009 04:07:10 PM 1724 Views
I know why Rand is mad at Egwene...read inside to find out Lan al'Mandragoran - 11/09/2009 03:15:00 AM 1768 Views
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It's his increasing paranoia and dehumanization. Cannoli - 15/09/2009 03:03:53 AM 1677 Views
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