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Re: I'm tired of passive story telling. CupofDice Send a noteboard - 05/09/2009 10:42:57 PM
Anyone else ever get tired of the action occurring offstage and being forced to learn about it through character monologues after the fact?

It's been happening over the last several books more and more often. The most egregious example was Rand's meeting with Logain. It's the lazy way to tell a story. Rather than write the action as it happens, just let a character remember it.

I was disappointed in the chapter, not because of the writing, nor do I think it is Sanderson's fault, but it was another 6500 pages with nothing happening. Why not tell the story of the escape, or Rand's healing, or present some of the questioning scenes?

Flame Away! :)


What in the world are you talking about?

6500 pages? Typo right?

The story of the escape? What escape?

Rand's healing? Ah, Rand was healed in KoD. We saw it.

Questioning scene? Yeah, that seems really interesting. Watching Semi answer nothing.

I do agree that too much happens off camera (thinking of the Mat-Couladin fight), but it is too early to judge TGS.
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Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 Sidious - 05/09/2009 05:23:47 PM 6194 Views
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You're forgetting one thing. Cannoli - 06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM 2087 Views
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He dislikes Sanderson's prose. Plot content is irrelevant here. *NM* Marshall - 08/09/2009 06:44:42 PM 1107 Views
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I found it well-written, but rather uninteresting story-wise *NM* ursidae - 05/09/2009 08:04:15 PM 1159 Views
because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Apsalar Shadowdancer - 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM 1803 Views
I'm tired of passive story telling. Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM 1770 Views
On the other hand... Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:58:21 PM 1861 Views
Re: I'm tired of passive story telling. CupofDice - 05/09/2009 10:42:57 PM 1708 Views
Which escape? Marshall - 05/09/2009 11:10:01 PM 1715 Views
I'm tired of mindless readers Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM 1848 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers DomA - 06/09/2009 04:01:56 AM 1998 Views
Your best yet Dom! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 02:04:40 PM 1046 Views
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Re: I'm tired of mindless readers NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 10:42:29 PM 1697 Views
I was over critical. Haggard - 06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM 1641 Views
A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM 1826 Views
It's been happening since Book IV btw. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:30:52 PM 1483 Views
Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM 1755 Views
A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM 1965 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) RandAllThor - 05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM 1893 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM 1712 Views
I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter. Werthead - 06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM 1677 Views
I don't really agree... lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:50:08 AM 1665 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 06/09/2009 02:52:47 AM 2378 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM 1627 Views
Just answer one question... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:53:12 AM 2151 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) redhand - 07/09/2009 05:09:38 AM 1692 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 08/09/2009 10:19:13 PM 1685 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 10/09/2009 06:20:56 AM 1969 Views
On Egwene... fionwe1987 - 10/09/2009 04:33:58 PM 1673 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) MissKoalaVB - 07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM 1759 Views
Answers, short, long and longer. NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 11:27:53 PM 1695 Views
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I think you missed some things. (spoilers) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:21:43 PM 1470 Views
People who still have their wotmania SNs draw mine.... Joel - 21/09/2009 05:25:15 PM 1527 Views
Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM 1484 Views
First thought...a typo! ner vous = nervous. *NM* Marshall - 05/09/2009 09:55:28 PM 1096 Views
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Re: I found it...interesting --spoilers-- CupofDice - 06/09/2009 01:42:07 AM 1737 Views
Re: I found it...interesting --spoilers-- NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 02:54:17 PM 1775 Views
I'm excited. (Here be spoilers) Seriana Sedai - 06/09/2009 03:29:59 AM 1656 Views
six questions and nine statements RabidWombat - 06/09/2009 04:47:52 AM 1717 Views
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Re: Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 gban007 - 06/09/2009 07:30:53 AM 1729 Views
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Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM 1670 Views
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Re: Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:53:20 AM 1662 Views
Re: I liked it Fanatic-Templar - 06/09/2009 09:55:41 PM 1676 Views
Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM 2582 Views
Also AliasRY - 06/09/2009 08:24:45 AM 1686 Views
A simpler answer NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM 1759 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 03:38:59 PM 1598 Views
Look at what he has seen... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM 1550 Views
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Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already Cannoli - 07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM 1773 Views
She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM* redhand - 07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM 1001 Views
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I still think it's Aviendha Deadsy - 07/09/2009 05:14:50 AM 1502 Views
Omniscient narrator not neutral enough, for one... Shannow - 06/09/2009 04:17:51 PM 1839 Views
Yip Sidious - 06/09/2009 04:29:40 PM 1761 Views
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Two Things aria - 07/09/2009 12:25:31 AM 1687 Views
Moiraine Deadsy - 07/09/2009 01:19:08 AM 1770 Views
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uh Deadsy - 09/09/2009 10:57:17 PM 1619 Views
Timeline? Deadsy - 07/09/2009 05:10:16 AM 1668 Views
Re: Timeline? NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 05:52:50 PM 1616 Views
So what chapter symbol is it going to have? *NM* Cannoli - 07/09/2009 08:09:54 AM 965 Views
the dragon in COT chap 23 ornaments *NM* rosco12 - 07/09/2009 01:28:58 PM 963 Views
The Seanchan are up to something Knightscape - 07/09/2009 10:26:23 AM 1658 Views
Red stone doorway. Bigerich - 07/09/2009 03:27:22 PM 1529 Views
The whole thing was explained by Rand in KoD. So no, not new. fionwe1987 - 07/09/2009 06:35:01 PM 1543 Views
No Deadsy - 07/09/2009 07:57:57 PM 1532 Views
Questions, Comments Thoughts and Theories about tGS Orlin_Artemi - 07/09/2009 09:09:05 PM 1727 Views
My thoughts are that the main page is being crowded by too many duplicate threads Lord o' Salv - 07/09/2009 10:23:41 PM 1666 Views
Hrm... Sidious - 08/09/2009 05:28:19 AM 1729 Views
Enjoyed it lodlom - 08/09/2009 01:35:03 AM 1646 Views
Ready for More Raforsaken - 08/09/2009 04:25:19 PM 1662 Views
... Seventysix - 08/09/2009 07:24:46 PM 1595 Views
Not sure what I expected, but not this... Myrdhyn - 09/09/2009 04:07:10 PM 1678 Views
I know why Rand is mad at Egwene...read inside to find out Lan al'Mandragoran - 11/09/2009 03:15:00 AM 1728 Views
Ummm... the embassy's proposal was accepted, and (presumably) communicated to Egwene at the earliest *NM* fionwe1987 - 11/09/2009 04:16:31 AM 1087 Views
It's his increasing paranoia and dehumanization. Cannoli - 15/09/2009 03:03:53 AM 1627 Views
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Semirhage isn't scaring anyone Sidious - 28/09/2009 02:32:34 PM 1942 Views
Indeed... Etzel - 28/09/2009 03:36:55 PM 1543 Views
Will the Chosen pass that edict down or just not act themselves? Rurouni_Kenshin - 28/09/2009 10:29:53 PM 1523 Views
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