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Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart Send a noteboard - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM
Semirhage was evil and did not deserve ANY respect or dignity. She was only terrifying or intimidating to cowards, who let the fear of pain dissuade them from what is right or true. Rand's order to ont torture her, no matter how misguided his reasoning, was the best command he could have given on that subject, becaused it forced Cadsuane to go outside the box and do what hurt Semirhage worst. I wouldn't have needed all that time to think on it, and I bet Egwene would not have either (assuming she could remember her first trip to the Heart of the Stone in Tel'Aran'Rhiod.


I would have needed an eternity, never once it would occur to me that spanking someone in front of people would break them, nothing i have experienced in life lends itself to that. Nor the people i polled.

No way would i think a public spanking would be the thing that hurt semirhage worst, obviously i don't know many people so innured to horror so it's hard to see how they would actually think. Maybe she never got chastised as a kid or something, i thought the secene was wholly unbelievabe and it was a jump the shark moment. After so much build up especially off-screen to undo it with a public spanking it still makes me laugh, not quite a memory sorrow and thorn twist.

Rand what shall you use to defeat Semi? Callandor? Choden Kal? A full Circle? This is the most feared forsaken in history, she is an emotionless unstoppable force, what will we do?

Don't Worry people, the Dragon shall bend her bare-arsed over the bath and chastise her with my slipper, trust me 15 seconds of this and she will crack, see i told you, now where's Demi so i can mock his male pattern baldness and break him too

For me Lame doesn't even start to describe it.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3215 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1697 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1613 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 738 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1404 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1314 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 615 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1407 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1363 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1309 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1275 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1377 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1204 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1178 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 669 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1198 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1185 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1144 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1286 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1385 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1225 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1280 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 593 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1282 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1156 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1259 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1157 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1241 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1125 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1283 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1279 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1437 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 664 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1354 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 709 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1241 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1227 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1296 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1230 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1215 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1196 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1262 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1218 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1251 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1164 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1277 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1119 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1148 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1254 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1157 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1140 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1115 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1215 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 1011 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1275 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 657 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1254 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1330 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1166 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 655 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1358 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 754 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1450 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1162 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1165 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1176 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1093 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1125 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1169 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1268 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1295 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1219 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1229 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1232 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1248 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1293 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1124 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1176 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1150 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1184 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8871 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1165 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1249 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1506 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1099 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1251 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1263 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1200 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1512 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1210 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 1032 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1344 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1161 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1392 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1214 Views
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