I meant to mention that the clues pointing to Rand vs. Gawyn point to Rand actually dying. They don't say anything either way about Gawyn's death; I just assume that Gawyn will die via the Arthur/Mordred parallel, since they both wound each other fatally (Mordred dies pretty much on the spot, and Arthur dies a little later, except in the legends that say he never died).
Anyway, the 'as darkness fits the sun' is like the main piece of evidence that Gawyn will kill Rand. We know that the sun will go dark on 'the day his blood is shed'. We know that the Dragon is one with the land, so there's a good explanation for the sun going dark (Rand dies; Dragonmount blows). We know that the sun went dark at noon when Jesus was on the cross. We know that the Shienaran Welcome includes a phrase about guarding against 'the shadow at noon'. All of this together with Nicola's Foretelling makes it pretty clear that Rand will die.
But yes, I think Rand will also kill Gawyn. Since we know from Min's viewing that Egwene will die if she does not bond Gawyn, then it's probably safe to assume that Egwene will be suffering from Gawyn's death.
The dream that Egwene had about confronting Rand pretty much has to happen after he's resurrected, because the Seanchan woman is with her, and the truce won't happen until Rand dies (and Tuon also can't get Justice till Rand dies). So I figure that only a few people will be in the know about Rand being resurrected, and that Tuon will be one of them. We also know that at least one other woman will be with Egwene for the confrontation.
Anyway, the 'as darkness fits the sun' is like the main piece of evidence that Gawyn will kill Rand. We know that the sun will go dark on 'the day his blood is shed'. We know that the Dragon is one with the land, so there's a good explanation for the sun going dark (Rand dies; Dragonmount blows). We know that the sun went dark at noon when Jesus was on the cross. We know that the Shienaran Welcome includes a phrase about guarding against 'the shadow at noon'. All of this together with Nicola's Foretelling makes it pretty clear that Rand will die.
But yes, I think Rand will also kill Gawyn. Since we know from Min's viewing that Egwene will die if she does not bond Gawyn, then it's probably safe to assume that Egwene will be suffering from Gawyn's death.
The dream that Egwene had about confronting Rand pretty much has to happen after he's resurrected, because the Seanchan woman is with her, and the truce won't happen until Rand dies (and Tuon also can't get Justice till Rand dies). So I figure that only a few people will be in the know about Rand being resurrected, and that Tuon will be one of them. We also know that at least one other woman will be with Egwene for the confrontation.
My new 'loony' theory
- 03/05/2010 11:09:52 AM
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Hehe, yeah, we can also discuss it here...
- 03/05/2010 12:04:57 PM
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- 03/05/2010 12:04:57 PM
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Good deal. You're still being prejudiced, though.
- 03/05/2010 12:20:00 PM
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- 03/05/2010 12:20:00 PM
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Of course, I prefer my theory....
- 03/05/2010 01:01:07 PM
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I suppose it's better than Beslan
- 03/05/2010 01:19:52 PM
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He, Beslan being Berelain's man in white was a most brilliant theory!
- 03/05/2010 01:55:07 PM
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- 03/05/2010 01:55:07 PM
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See, this is why I am right and you are wrong!
- 04/05/2010 03:56:31 AM
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- 04/05/2010 03:56:31 AM
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In my view
- 04/05/2010 10:07:02 AM
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Still prejudiced, of course...
- 04/05/2010 10:24:53 AM
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Just disagreeing
- 04/05/2010 11:15:44 AM
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And repeating yourself. But I have evidence.
- 04/05/2010 12:24:06 PM
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Well...
- 04/05/2010 01:10:17 PM
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This is getting silly
- 04/05/2010 01:27:56 PM
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Yeah, I think as well that we have sufficiently exchanged our views on this matter!
*NM*
- 04/05/2010 02:18:09 PM
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*NM*
- 04/05/2010 02:18:09 PM
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Re: My new 'loony' theory
- 03/05/2010 04:27:12 PM
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cool people change the subject line
- 04/05/2010 04:14:18 AM
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Re: cool people change the subject line
- 04/05/2010 06:43:01 AM
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Re: cool people change the subject line
- 04/05/2010 07:32:24 AM
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Re: cool people change the subject line
- 04/05/2010 08:31:47 AM
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Re: cool people change the subject line
- 04/05/2010 09:27:51 AM
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I dont claim to be but didnt you say cool people change the subject line?
- 05/05/2010 02:41:49 AM
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- 05/05/2010 02:41:49 AM
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Yes. What of it? *NM*
- 05/05/2010 03:22:34 AM
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now you're a cool kid again?
*NM*
- 05/05/2010 03:23:49 AM
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*NM*
- 05/05/2010 03:23:49 AM
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It was originally a comment on those who normally dwell here (and also did at Wotmania of course) *NM*
- 05/05/2010 03:25:17 AM
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Re: My new 'loony' theory
- 04/05/2010 04:44:28 AM
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what comments by Brandon, and what flaws?
- 04/05/2010 04:49:29 AM
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Gawyn promised not to raise a hand against Rand
- 06/05/2010 12:59:47 AM
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Indeed he did.
- 06/05/2010 07:23:44 AM
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But...
- 06/05/2010 08:52:04 AM
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Just because it makes more sense to you doesn't make it more likely. I have evidence!
- 06/05/2010 09:57:52 AM
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Well...
- 06/05/2010 11:12:42 AM
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*sigh*
- 06/05/2010 01:41:03 PM
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I'm still hoping to dissuade you from this crazy idea!
- 06/05/2010 02:07:54 PM
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- 06/05/2010 02:07:54 PM
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You won't.
- 06/05/2010 02:11:42 PM
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Gawyn agreed that he would talk with Elayne about this topic
- 06/05/2010 02:32:55 PM
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Nice theory ...
- 07/05/2010 06:25:29 PM
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Take two
- 17/05/2010 07:33:35 PM
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Re: Take two
- 17/05/2010 11:45:08 PM
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Re: Take two
- 18/05/2010 12:52:10 AM
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Re: Take two
- 18/05/2010 01:35:46 AM
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Re: Take two
- 18/05/2010 01:45:24 AM
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