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AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge. The Angry Druid Send a noteboard - 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM

What have you got on these two ladies?

Do you like them? Do they deserve what happened to them, or did they make the best of a bad situation?

Discuss :)


What they've done since stilling makes them much MORE awe inspiring, not less.

They rallied the AS, got an army, got their choice elected Amyrlin, schooled her, taught her, learned from her, made a friend of Nynaeve (no easy task), mastered T'A'R better than any non-Aiel save Egwene. Almost all of while not being able channel at all, being able to channel a little, and with no real world authority.

And no, they didn't deserve what happened to them. What a silly question. Siuan did the best she could do (just about). Who could she trust?

And Leane didn't even know what was going on.
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Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif Sidious - 09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM 5535 Views
The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... Shannow - 09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM 1406 Views
yeah, but then again ... Velveti - 09/05/2010 09:05:36 PM 1163 Views
That's total nonsense... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM 1369 Views
No, THAT's total nonsense... Shannow - 10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM 1262 Views
He raised other issues too Sidious - 10/05/2010 11:04:52 AM 1252 Views
You seem to deal in bad analogies... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM 1256 Views
You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable. Shannow - 10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM 1120 Views
Hello Pot. I'm Kettle. fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM 1133 Views
Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan *NM* darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM 608 Views
Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM* BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM 627 Views
Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM* HyogaRott - 17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM 561 Views
I usually agree about his manner, but he's right here. Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:24:28 AM 1251 Views
All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office! Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM 1323 Views
Re: No, THAT's total nonsense... lyringlas - 19/05/2010 04:39:07 PM 1199 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM 1262 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM 1146 Views
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 06:32:00 AM 1178 Views
Both wonderful characters... Great Lord of Chaos - 10/05/2010 12:49:44 AM 1068 Views
They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ... Shishka - 10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM 1282 Views
"They"? fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM 1188 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM 1359 Views
Re: Good point ... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 06:49:19 PM 1207 Views
Re: Good point ... DomA - 11/05/2010 03:43:43 PM 1379 Views
Leanne was not an Overseer Nargs - 17/05/2010 02:40:45 AM 1202 Views
Re: "They"? DomA - 11/05/2010 02:53:23 PM 1268 Views
And she was eventually brought in on the secrets as well... Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:38:52 AM 1207 Views
I don't know if I agree with this darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM 1248 Views
The thing is ... Shishka - 11/05/2010 09:06:15 PM 1164 Views
I get what you are saying, but the quote is from much earlier darius_sedai - 14/05/2010 03:14:17 PM 980 Views
I totally unagree... Milla - 17/05/2010 11:16:50 AM 1460 Views
I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM 1149 Views
She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine Sidious - 10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM 1097 Views
The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM 1177 Views
This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM 1164 Views
I don't really agree Sidious - 11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM 1134 Views
I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM 1128 Views
Re: I don't really agree DomA - 11/05/2010 06:28:48 PM 1244 Views
I hope so, as well. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/05/2010 05:31:36 PM 1167 Views
Re: Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif orius - 11/05/2010 05:06:51 PM 1923 Views
I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds. Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM 1197 Views
In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it Cannoli - 12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM 1167 Views
Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this. Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM 1054 Views
Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM* Cannoli - 12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM 670 Views
Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM 614 Views
The Reds aren't petty Sidious - 12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM 1037 Views
Are you kidding? Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM 1205 Views
Unless of course there is truth to it darius_sedai - 17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM 1183 Views
There is none. Fanatic-Templar - 17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM 1169 Views
Uhhh? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM 1066 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM 1226 Views
Re: ... Sidious - 18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM 1138 Views
Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT] Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM 1166 Views
*sigh* Sidious - 18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM 1221 Views
So, you're not kidding. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM 1094 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding. Sidious - 18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM 1119 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding. Fanatic-Templar - 19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM 1208 Views
So, Tsutama... fionwe1987 - 19/05/2010 05:29:56 PM 1287 Views
Ugh. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 04:05:43 AM 1030 Views
WTF? fionwe1987 - 20/05/2010 05:25:42 PM 1089 Views
F-T is right BlackAdder - 19/05/2010 12:32:33 AM 1196 Views
On the minority thing... fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM 1178 Views
That's exactly the problem. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM 1025 Views
There is no rewriting... fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 08:57:50 PM 1033 Views
Re: There is no rewriting... Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 09:21:31 PM 1145 Views
Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red? darius_sedai - 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM 1181 Views
Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM 987 Views
why so pissy? darius_sedai - 19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM 1166 Views
Sorry. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM 1095 Views
Re: Sorry. Sidious - 20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM 981 Views
Re: Sorry. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM 1244 Views
Re: Sorry. Sidious - 20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM 1002 Views
Interesting. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM 1108 Views
Re: Interesting. Sidious - 21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM 1112 Views
Re: Interesting. Fanatic-Templar - 21/05/2010 06:28:05 AM 1038 Views
LOL Sidious - 21/05/2010 02:50:29 PM 1065 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/05/2010 08:23:08 PM 1241 Views
No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM* darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM 701 Views
There may be one explanation... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM 1073 Views
That doesn't make sense. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM 1217 Views
it was about more than just male channelers darius_sedai - 18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM 1283 Views
Yes, that's true. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM 1248 Views
I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM 1140 Views
That's also true. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM 1101 Views
Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM 1094 Views
Why are they lumped together? Cannoli - 12/05/2010 05:53:51 AM 1393 Views
for practical purposes Sidious - 12/05/2010 04:50:48 PM 1068 Views
AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge. The Angry Druid - 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM 1105 Views
Re: AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge. Watcher - 12/05/2010 11:05:17 PM 1256 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM 1029 Views
Let's just say we disagree. The Angry Druid - 17/05/2010 11:15:31 PM 1157 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 04:33:40 PM 1116 Views
Pfft Sidious - 18/05/2010 05:31:16 PM 1145 Views
You don't have to intimidate people to manipulate them. BlackAdder - 19/05/2010 12:46:02 AM 997 Views
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