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... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 21/05/2010 08:23:08 PM
LMAO I love the way that Cannoli's lack of reply is taken of evidence of him understanding your post (especially how you lectured other posters on how the onus of evidence works).


I never said he understood my post, you claimed that three people did not understand my argument, and I simply demonstrated that Cannoli never showed anything to demonstrate that he didn't. You're the one to make the claim, so the onus of evidence is on you. Despite your dishonesty, I never claimed that Cannoli understood my post.

Fionwe called you incoherent and illogical, and the biggest fool in the world. His post is also aptly titled 'WTF?' This is powerful evidence in your favour that he understands your post and that you've reached an amicable agreement to agree to disagree. Lol.


Again, you are being dishonest. I never said anything about an amicable agreement. And I don't agree to disagree. Fionwe has perfectly justified reasons to be angry at me, given that I simply dropped the discussion without addressing any of his arguments, essentially snubbing him. I'd be angry too. However, he does understand my argument, given that he posted:

If by the above statement, you mean why no one brought this issue up to Egwene when she was a captive


As you can see, her comprehension of my position is perfectly fine, so again, you're the only one who has difficulty grasping the concept.

I explained in my other posts why I thought this. You bounce around between books 4 and 12 as if they're simultaneous events, and get angry when I suggest they're not. Just look at Fionwe's last post - he still doesn't know when exactly you're referring to Egwene. Neither do I. That makes you incoherent and illogical IMO.


You lie. I have never referred to this happening at any other time than during The Gathering Storm (or possibly Knife of Dreams). Observe:

Fanatic-Templar: Yeah, but you'd expect the Red Ajah to have said something about it in The Gathering Storm or something.

is it possible that you, like Cannoli was, are under the assumption that I expect something to happen about this in upcoming books? Because I obviously don't. The perfect timing for this to be addressed was in The Gathering Storm,

No we're not talking about the present. We're talking, at latest, of the contents of The Gathering Storm, as I corrected two posts ago.

I make it explicitly cleat that the time to bring it up was The Gathering Storm and that it would not make sense for it to be brought up now. And despite this, you just ridiculously claimed that I expect this to be brought up "now that the Tower is reunified", which is the exact opposite of what I claimed.


Incidentally, even rereading these posts, I still can't figure out how it is so difficult for you to understand my position.

Anyway, if the total sum of your argument that I am "incoherent and illogical" is that you can fabricate lies and have comprehension difficulties, I am not very convinced.

I am glad that you can prove your theory.


Unlike you, I dread looking like a fool, so I tend to make certain I can support my assertions. If I cannot, I apologise for my errors and try to put it behind me.

You're a psycho. I wrote you decent replies from the beginning and you immediately jumped on the snarky and sarcastic bandwagon instead of immediately stating that you thought I was missing your point and redressing it. Telling me to read the books, or that I don't understand core concepts - those are your tools in debating. If you'd addressed it politely this would have turned out differently, but I had to wade through paragraphs of your sarcasm and contempt, and darius had to fend off your acidic attacks. Instead you've made as if this is some sort of maligned conspiracy on my part, and you demand an apology. Well I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I was here to discuss the Red ajah. Too bad I was burned at the stake for my ideas.


Reality check: first words from your first post in this subthread:

You squabble like an old woman.


Oh, and you also insinuated that I was petty for caring about this issue. I am so sorry I couldn't maintain your exceedingly high standards of debate . But sarcasm aside, you're the one who came in condescending, and you have no place whining when I responded to you in kind. Now me, I assumed that was meant in humour and kept the theme in my answer to you. Really, if you were offended despite being the one to initiate it, I do apologise.

But the issue here is that when a misunderstanding arose, I tried to resolve it, while you instead didn't read my posts and went on wild accusatory rants against me, lied in order to shift the blame on me, and tried to get me to accept it and just scurry away through mocking and insults, doing everything in order to dodge your responsibility for the affair.
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Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif - 09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM 4956 Views
The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... - 09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM 989 Views
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No, THAT's total nonsense... - 10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM 892 Views
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Both wonderful characters... - 10/05/2010 12:49:44 AM 748 Views
They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ... - 10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM 952 Views
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Re: Good point ... - 11/05/2010 03:43:43 PM 1047 Views
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I totally unagree... - 17/05/2010 11:16:50 AM 1045 Views
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I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds. - 12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM 839 Views
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Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this. - 12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM 735 Views
Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM* - 12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM 507 Views
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There is none. - 17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM 808 Views
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... - 17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM 850 Views
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So, you're not kidding. - 18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM 756 Views
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WTF? - 20/05/2010 05:25:42 PM 760 Views
F-T is right - 19/05/2010 12:32:33 AM 867 Views
On the minority thing... - 18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM 808 Views
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There is no rewriting... - 18/05/2010 08:57:50 PM 675 Views
Re: There is no rewriting... - 18/05/2010 09:21:31 PM 786 Views
Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red? - 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM 803 Views
Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist. - 18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM 673 Views
why so pissy? - 19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM 813 Views
Sorry. - 20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM 792 Views
Re: Sorry. - 20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM 659 Views
Re: Sorry. - 20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM 833 Views
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Re: Interesting. - 21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM 761 Views
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... - 21/05/2010 08:23:08 PM 907 Views
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Yes, that's true. - 18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM 866 Views
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That's also true. - 20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM 748 Views
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for practical purposes - 12/05/2010 04:50:48 PM 710 Views
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Let's just say we disagree. - 17/05/2010 11:15:31 PM 824 Views
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