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Re: Take two Terez Send a noteboard - 18/05/2010 06:32:57 AM
I would first say that even if Rand knows that he has to die, I suspect he would believe that he has to die in a way a bit more significant than death-by-lunatic to fullfill the prophecies and so on. As such I think he would very much want to solve death-by-Gawyn, even with balefire.


Perhaps. I think that there are any number of ways that the duel could go down, and I'm not sure why you are focusing on scenarios in which something would go wrong for the prophecies. Like I said, I think it most likely that Rand will manage to give the first fatal blow. With only one arm, he'll be defenseless against Gawyn's counterstroke (it has nothing to do with back-turning...just swordplay).


Yeah, I suppose this is possible. Though it does beg the question of why those maidens did not interfere in the batte to protect Rand in the first place if they were near(see below).


As I said in my post, I think it will be a proper duel. It's probably impossible to predict the exact conditions; I don't see why you would expect me to when there are any number of situations in which it would make sense. It may be a simple matter of honor, accepting the challenge to a duel...or it might be something Gawyn pulls out of Andoran law, like Galad did with Whitecloak law.


I would say that being one handed will place Rand at a disadvantage to someone with two hands.


This is rather obvious. But it doesn't mean that Rand can't hang. He fought five at once with two hands, in Caemlyn.

Second, there is a scene at the beginning of TGS that suggests that Rand has infact not been practising his swordsmanship.


It indicates that Rand fears he will be killed by his first instinct; he even emphasizes the fact that it's not his primary sword hand. It's a rather odd thought, actually, since most of the situations in which his life will be in danger will not involve swordsmen, much less skilled ones. I see it as foreshadowing of his duel with Gawyn.

Also, later in the book, there is another quote in Min's point of view that indicates he is getting used to the one hand thing:

TITLE - The Gathering Storm
CHAPTER: 37 - A Force of Light

Rand reached for a gold and black coat, sliding on one sleeve, then the other. Then did the buttons one after another. He had no trouble with these; he was growing practiced at working with only one hand. Button after button. First, second, third, fourth. . . .

Min felt like screaming.


Just buttons...but Rand is smart enough to be more critical than cocky when it comes to the vulnerability in his sword technique.
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