Overall, I would agree that, whether or not RJ wrote this into the culture, I would imagine that testing there is a traumatizing effect on children. Not just girls--boys are tested too, except that male channelers are killed, IIRC. And men tend to exhibit the spark later than women, so their terror could potentially last a lot longer.
So, there are a couple of things to consider, although there are a lot of details we can't be sure of. First, channeling is a rare talent. So, most girls will not be collared. It's a genetic lottery, and given that channelers never marry or have children, the genetic tendencies are rare.
However, on the flip side, having a sul'dam in the family is a great honor, and is far more common (although it too is rare--just less rare than being a channeler). These are folks born with the ability to learn, but not channel innately, which I would imagine is on the genetic 'channeling spectrum'. Now, we don't know how often sul'dam marry. Very often? Do they tend to have many children? Are their lives subtly lengthened because of their quasi-channeling?
Are there no farmers in Seanchan? Does no one understand breeding? The fact that Egwene figures out that sul'dam can be collared, and yet NO Seanchan person in the culture itself has figured this out is frankly amazing. It defies belief, but RJ seems to suggest it is so. These folks really are brainwashed by their society into not thinking certain things. It's actually incredible that they've managed to maintain an empire for so long and conquer so much of Randland so successfully, given that they have been trained from birth by their culture to be so blinkered about what is staring them in the face. Tuon, who despite being rather xenophobic and superstitious, is actually pretty sharp, and yet even she hardly blinks an eye when finding out her culture is built on such extraordinary misdirection.
Perhaps the super-secret-society of Seanchan High Elders knows this, and would have informed Tuon when she became empress, had she not already known.
Anyway, back to your question. In sum, seeing as Aes Sedai rarely marry or have children, and have been 'culling' male channelers as well, and seeing as this has led to a decrease in the number of channelers, it stands to reason that channeling ability is rare in Seanchan as well. Only about 1 in 1000 is collared, and the chances go down from there after age 20, even if they don't let up until 25. The marriage issue is a good one--I wouldn't put it past Seanchan culture to kill the babies of women who later find out they can channel, or else turn them into da'covale for life.
So, there are a couple of things to consider, although there are a lot of details we can't be sure of. First, channeling is a rare talent. So, most girls will not be collared. It's a genetic lottery, and given that channelers never marry or have children, the genetic tendencies are rare.
However, on the flip side, having a sul'dam in the family is a great honor, and is far more common (although it too is rare--just less rare than being a channeler). These are folks born with the ability to learn, but not channel innately, which I would imagine is on the genetic 'channeling spectrum'. Now, we don't know how often sul'dam marry. Very often? Do they tend to have many children? Are their lives subtly lengthened because of their quasi-channeling?
Are there no farmers in Seanchan? Does no one understand breeding? The fact that Egwene figures out that sul'dam can be collared, and yet NO Seanchan person in the culture itself has figured this out is frankly amazing. It defies belief, but RJ seems to suggest it is so. These folks really are brainwashed by their society into not thinking certain things. It's actually incredible that they've managed to maintain an empire for so long and conquer so much of Randland so successfully, given that they have been trained from birth by their culture to be so blinkered about what is staring them in the face. Tuon, who despite being rather xenophobic and superstitious, is actually pretty sharp, and yet even she hardly blinks an eye when finding out her culture is built on such extraordinary misdirection.
Perhaps the super-secret-society of Seanchan High Elders knows this, and would have informed Tuon when she became empress, had she not already known.
Anyway, back to your question. In sum, seeing as Aes Sedai rarely marry or have children, and have been 'culling' male channelers as well, and seeing as this has led to a decrease in the number of channelers, it stands to reason that channeling ability is rare in Seanchan as well. Only about 1 in 1000 is collared, and the chances go down from there after age 20, even if they don't let up until 25. The marriage issue is a good one--I wouldn't put it past Seanchan culture to kill the babies of women who later find out they can channel, or else turn them into da'covale for life.
The chief difficulty Alice found at first was in managing her flamingo.
Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25?
- 02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM
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It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 01:06:32 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 05:53:14 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 04/06/2010 07:19:36 PM
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A few details to consider
- 02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM
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Re: A few details to consider
- 02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM
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Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 03/06/2010 03:38:25 AM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 04/06/2010 07:46:08 PM
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Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn.
- 03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM
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I think they retest only the sul'dam
- 02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM
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I'll have to check my EotW, but I think Eg did have some fevers before Winternight. *NM*
- 02/06/2010 06:34:35 PM
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Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam
- 04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM
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Point on the testing
- 08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM
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Re: Point on the testing
- 08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM
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I'd think that would be a tiny chance given how diligent the Seanchan are in this regard
- 08/06/2010 02:58:15 PM
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Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned"
- 02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM
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This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH
- 03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar?
- 04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM
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I am absolutely sure. Quote from book.
- 04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM
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Toun, though too young can be collared
- 06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM
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I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
- 06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM
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Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
- 06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM
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I just see all of that as potential plot lines for the planned follow-up Mat/Tuon in Seanchan novels
- 08/06/2010 02:09:26 AM
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Not at all
- 02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM
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As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously.
- 03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM
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Huh?
- 03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM
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Sure
- 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM
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Bah...
- 03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM
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Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled.
- 03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM
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Re: Sure
- 04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM
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I don't know if that's totally true
- 04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM
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Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this.
- 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM
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I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest
- 04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM
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You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan.
- 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM
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Meh
- 04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM
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I love that: "I'm convinced Rand al'Thor is the most monotonous man in the world."
- 04/06/2010 05:47:01 PM
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I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
- 04/06/2010 03:51:42 PM
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Re: I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
- 04/06/2010 05:04:52 PM
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Brandon brings out supporting chars. better, it's true.
- 04/06/2010 03:17:52 AM
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You're absolutely right. Sanderson gets "inside" the characters a bit more. *NM*
- 04/06/2010 03:52:29 PM
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