Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM
By the time the idea of breeding and genetics caught on, the innovator Gregor Mendel was long dead, and it was up to scientists who realized he had discovered something important a generation later to do further research. Despite the fact that the human species had been conducting farming and breeding on a large scale for generations, it was less of a science than it was a practice that was largely ignored or taken for granted unless you were an especially perceptive person utilizing the practice.
In many ways, science can be the study of things that many people take for granted because they would rather not think of it, then otherwise.
That is the one thing about knowledge that I think Robert Jordan got right. The ones with the most powerful and esoteric knowledge frequently aren't in powerful positions. It was a toothless wilder that re-introduced the idea of a Well into the Westlands, random wilders have access to rare channeling feats because the Aes Sedai no longer practice them, and the strongest possible channelers are the ones who are off leading their lives in backwaters having no desire to be affiliated with the White Tower. The one Westlander who has some idea of the state of the world himself is currently in disguise as a random old gentleman.
Meanwhile the people in power and the decision makers often have to work with insufficient information and questionable motivations to make the big decisions.
In many ways, science can be the study of things that many people take for granted because they would rather not think of it, then otherwise.
That is the one thing about knowledge that I think Robert Jordan got right. The ones with the most powerful and esoteric knowledge frequently aren't in powerful positions. It was a toothless wilder that re-introduced the idea of a Well into the Westlands, random wilders have access to rare channeling feats because the Aes Sedai no longer practice them, and the strongest possible channelers are the ones who are off leading their lives in backwaters having no desire to be affiliated with the White Tower. The one Westlander who has some idea of the state of the world himself is currently in disguise as a random old gentleman.
Meanwhile the people in power and the decision makers often have to work with insufficient information and questionable motivations to make the big decisions.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
This message last edited by RugbyPlayingAshaman on 02/06/2010 at 09:21:41 PM
Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25?
02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM
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It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 01:06:32 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 05:53:14 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
04/06/2010 07:19:36 PM
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A few details to consider
02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM
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Re: A few details to consider
02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM
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Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
03/06/2010 03:38:25 AM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
04/06/2010 07:46:08 PM
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Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn.
03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM
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I think they retest only the sul'dam
02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM
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I'll have to check my EotW, but I think Eg did have some fevers before Winternight. *NM*
02/06/2010 06:34:35 PM
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Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam
04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM
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Point on the testing
08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM
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Re: Point on the testing
08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM
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I'd think that would be a tiny chance given how diligent the Seanchan are in this regard
08/06/2010 02:58:15 PM
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Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned"
02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM
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This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH
03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar?
04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM
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I am absolutely sure. Quote from book.
04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM
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Toun, though too young can be collared
06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM
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I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM
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Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM
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I just see all of that as potential plot lines for the planned follow-up Mat/Tuon in Seanchan novels
08/06/2010 02:09:26 AM
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Not at all
02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM
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As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously.
03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM
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Huh?
03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM
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Sure
03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM
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Bah...
03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM
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Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled.
03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM
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Re: Sure
04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM
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I don't know if that's totally true
04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM
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Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this.
04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM
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I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest
04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM
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You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan.
04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM
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Meh
04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM
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I love that: "I'm convinced Rand al'Thor is the most monotonous man in the world."
04/06/2010 05:47:01 PM
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I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
04/06/2010 03:51:42 PM
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Re: I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
04/06/2010 05:04:52 PM
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Brandon brings out supporting chars. better, it's true.
04/06/2010 03:17:52 AM
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You're absolutely right. Sanderson gets "inside" the characters a bit more. *NM*
04/06/2010 03:52:29 PM
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