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Sure Tom Send a noteboard - 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM
In every one of Sanderson's books that I've read (and I've read most of them), I've seen characters who are believable. Elantris, Mistborn, Warbreaker - they all had people who were complex and fully developed. Few characters were "static" or "two-dimensional"; they would act in ways that were unexpected yet entirely in keeping with who they were, intellectually and emotionally.

Jordan's characters, on the other hand, have largely been ersatz humans with two-dimensional personalities and little emotional, intellectual or spiritual growth. When they display emotion, it is often with stock phrases and cliches.

One of the very few instances in the entire series that has had any real depth has been Rand's "soul-searching" on Dragonmount at the end of The Gathering Storm. I'm not sure how much of that scene was Jordan and how much was Sanderson, but I'm willing to bet that it was more of the latter than the former. I never saw anything that real or immediate in Jordan's writing.

As for the other points, it's obvious Jordan's "Old Tongue" is a pile of crap, linguistically speaking. He would have been better not trying to write "in" it if he can't be like Tolkien. But he so desperately wanted to be like Tolkien.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25? - 02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM 1568 Views
A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM 904 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM 908 Views
Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 03/06/2010 03:32:44 AM 903 Views
Re: Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 04/06/2010 07:30:55 PM 770 Views
Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics - 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM 746 Views
Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn. - 03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM 1051 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 04/06/2010 07:33:39 AM 770 Views
I think it's seen as something that happens to other people. - 02/06/2010 02:20:09 AM 780 Views
I think they retest only the sul'dam - 02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM 950 Views
Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam - 04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM 737 Views
Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM 711 Views
Re: Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM 783 Views
Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned" - 02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM 843 Views
This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH - 03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM 1207 Views
That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar? - 04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM 731 Views
I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM 801 Views
Re: I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 11:54:25 AM 640 Views
Thanks Darius *NM* - 08/06/2010 01:48:28 AM 408 Views
Toun, though too young can be collared - 06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM 636 Views
I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM 789 Views
Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:04:33 AM 675 Views
Re: Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:18:21 AM 573 Views
Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM 685 Views
Not at all - 02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM 656 Views
Re: Are the new damane actually tortured? - 02/06/2010 06:56:10 PM 814 Views
I think "tortured" is relative... - 03/06/2010 08:22:37 AM 744 Views
As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously. - 03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM 685 Views
Huh? - 03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM 785 Views
Sure - 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM 797 Views
Bah... - 03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM 743 Views
Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled. - 03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM 732 Views
oh come now - 04/06/2010 12:58:44 AM 666 Views
Re: Sure - 04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM 837 Views
I don't know if that's totally true - 04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM 660 Views
Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this. - 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM 691 Views
I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest - 04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM 718 Views
You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan. - 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM 685 Views
meh. I prefer non-fiction most of the time - 06/06/2010 03:44:38 AM 736 Views
I have read lots of fiction - 06/06/2010 03:57:07 AM 728 Views
Meh - 04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM 713 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that - 06/06/2010 03:49:48 AM 719 Views
We've seen so little of the old tongue how can you tell? - 06/06/2010 03:33:46 AM 586 Views
This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:13:25 AM 647 Views
Re: This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:53:42 AM 699 Views

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