Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this.
Tom Send a noteboard - 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM
You have to understand that whenever you (or anyone else) argues that the characters are rounded characters with depth, there are a significant number of people who just don't see that. You can't "logically" convince people (myself included) that the characters are deep.
To a large degree, it's a matter of perception. I'm sure that a lot of it also has to do with points of reference. I suggested that maybe you don't read a lot of serious literature because that would affect the level of depth you hope to see in major characters in any book.
However, even if you do, it's an argument that you can't really make. People agree or they don't. It's like trying to argue with someone who says that Faile is their favorite character. You know they're wrong (and, in that particular case, probably not mentally well), but you'll never convince them.
To a large degree, it's a matter of perception. I'm sure that a lot of it also has to do with points of reference. I suggested that maybe you don't read a lot of serious literature because that would affect the level of depth you hope to see in major characters in any book.
However, even if you do, it's an argument that you can't really make. People agree or they don't. It's like trying to argue with someone who says that Faile is their favorite character. You know they're wrong (and, in that particular case, probably not mentally well), but you'll never convince them.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25?
- 02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM
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It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 01:06:32 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 05:53:14 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 04/06/2010 07:19:36 PM
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A few details to consider
- 02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM
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Re: A few details to consider
- 02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM
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Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 03/06/2010 03:38:25 AM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 04/06/2010 07:46:08 PM
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Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn.
- 03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM
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I think they retest only the sul'dam
- 02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM
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I'll have to check my EotW, but I think Eg did have some fevers before Winternight. *NM*
- 02/06/2010 06:34:35 PM
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Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam
- 04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM
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Point on the testing
- 08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM
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Re: Point on the testing
- 08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM
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I'd think that would be a tiny chance given how diligent the Seanchan are in this regard
- 08/06/2010 02:58:15 PM
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Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned"
- 02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM
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This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH
- 03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar?
- 04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM
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I am absolutely sure. Quote from book.
- 04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM
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Toun, though too young can be collared
- 06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM
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I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
- 06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM
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Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
- 06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM
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I just see all of that as potential plot lines for the planned follow-up Mat/Tuon in Seanchan novels
- 08/06/2010 02:09:26 AM
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Not at all
- 02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM
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As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously.
- 03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM
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Huh?
- 03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM
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Sure
- 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM
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Bah...
- 03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM
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Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled.
- 03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM
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Re: Sure
- 04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM
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I don't know if that's totally true
- 04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM
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Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this.
- 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM
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I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest
- 04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM
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You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan.
- 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM
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Meh
- 04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM
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I love that: "I'm convinced Rand al'Thor is the most monotonous man in the world."
- 04/06/2010 05:47:01 PM
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I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
- 04/06/2010 03:51:42 PM
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Re: I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
- 04/06/2010 05:04:52 PM
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Brandon brings out supporting chars. better, it's true.
- 04/06/2010 03:17:52 AM
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You're absolutely right. Sanderson gets "inside" the characters a bit more. *NM*
- 04/06/2010 03:52:29 PM
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