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Re: Yeah darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/06/2010 12:25:21 AM
I understand that they don't want to give away too much information, but seriously...the fact Maria was considering RAFO'ing the origin of Cyndane's body shows that they RAFO WAY TOO MUCH. They just like fucking with us. Period. There are ways to give a bit of teaser info - like, for example, with the question about Thom and the Myrddraal. The answer could be "There is more to Thom's artifacts than meets the eye - RAFO" or "Thom did some interesting things in his past that most people haven't done - RAFO" or something like that to at least sort of give a general direction.

They just fuck with us. Intentionally so. I'll be glad when the books are all done so I can go back and show how stupid half of the RAFOs really were.


I've been wishing for years that they never said anything to the fans, and that everything was left to speculation. BS messed up his answers so badly that Maria had to come save the situation, and now we have MAFO and RAFO. It's all rather childish and sadistic if you ask me.

I'm convinced RJ wanted to reveal Asmodean's killer in LoC, but after the warm reception it got, it's been stretched into the most ludicrously complex mystery. Half of fans' direct questions have been answered in the last two books, almost as if it's a blog. "Yes, al'Thor, I can see you are stronger, because your gateway is bigger than mine." We even have fans who are appearing as insignificant characters in the books as rewards now.


I agree ... sometimes I feel like 99% of what RJ and now BSand/Maria are telling us is total BS ...
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Several good MAFOs from Dragonmount Etzel - 10/06/2010 07:07:55 PM 2292 Views
Some good RAFOs here Skeeve the Great - 10/06/2010 07:31:56 PM 1043 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 10/06/2010 07:36:55 PM 930 Views
Maria's answer to question 20 is ground-breaking! Logain - 10/06/2010 07:36:40 PM 1221 Views
No, it merely means that the Bell Curve does not refer to absolute strength... Shannow - 10/06/2010 07:42:31 PM 1079 Views
See the question again man! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:48:57 PM 1047 Views
That contradicts your assertion that Moiraine is stronger than the average woman... Shannow - 10/06/2010 07:50:11 PM 1142 Views
How? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:54:41 PM 1071 Views
I need to re-evaluate nothing! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:46:20 PM 1068 Views
Think logically for a moment... Shannow - 10/06/2010 07:49:10 PM 902 Views
Who said Egwene is twice as strong as Moiraine? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:52:27 PM 1180 Views
Aviendha did in FoH... Shannow - 10/06/2010 07:54:32 PM 894 Views
Nope! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:55:55 PM 1065 Views
Your quotes are faulty Sidious - 10/06/2010 07:57:18 PM 1072 Views
In what sense though? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:59:00 PM 1065 Views
Forkroot Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:04:50 PM 1005 Views
Again... later that night? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:05:39 PM 874 Views
What do you mean? Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:07:24 PM 1052 Views
See below... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:11:24 PM 931 Views
Re: See below... Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:12:34 PM 1001 Views
I just did. fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:16:09 PM 836 Views
Well then we disagree Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:18:10 PM 1039 Views
BUT WHAT ABOUT LATER IN THE NIGHT! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:20:21 PM 876 Views
Ah, you mean later later ... Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:29:59 PM 975 Views
Forkroot wears off, you know? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:45:33 PM 1069 Views
Yes I know Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:05:29 PM 1077 Views
I've explained it before in this thread... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:17:10 PM 1052 Views
Re: I've explained it before in this thread... Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:37:39 PM 1046 Views
Re: I've explained it before in this thread... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:51:40 PM 979 Views
Re: I've explained it before in this thread... Sidious - 10/06/2010 10:05:37 PM 1008 Views
Are you sure you're feeling fine? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 10:18:44 PM 1070 Views
Re: Are you sure you're feeling fine? Sidious - 10/06/2010 10:29:04 PM 1172 Views
Re: Are you sure you're feeling fine? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 10:47:00 PM 969 Views
RJ writes that Amys cannot hold Egwene. BS writes that Barasene can. Who are you gonna believe? Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:31:35 PM 890 Views
It wasn't BS... both were RJ! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:41:54 PM 974 Views
In that case, there is no problem... Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:45:05 PM 1001 Views
But that isn't what the text says... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:57:42 PM 847 Views
How can Egwene be strong enough to overcome Katerine and Silviana together then? Shannow - 10/06/2010 09:07:36 PM 1084 Views
She also says Egwene is Aes Sedai in the same sentence... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:25:16 PM 1109 Views
Yeah, both were RJ Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 955 Views
Yeah yeah... RJ lied, Maria lied. Only you make sense. I'm finished with this debate. fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:59:06 PM 1051 Views
Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:07:52 PM 1037 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:29:22 PM 903 Views
Re: Really? Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:39:21 PM 1012 Views
Re: Really? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:43:41 PM 891 Views
Re: Really? Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:50:23 PM 1056 Views
I haven't refuted? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:53:17 PM 1082 Views
Here's what is clear: Shannow - 10/06/2010 09:02:41 PM 954 Views
IMO it's easy to disprove Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:22:23 PM 934 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:27:34 PM 840 Views
At least we agree on one thing Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:29:14 PM 955 Views
No... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:32:06 PM 888 Views
Re: No... Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:43:59 PM 1035 Views
fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:57:25 PM 884 Views
Re: Sidious - 10/06/2010 10:12:29 PM 979 Views
Re: fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 10:34:28 PM 991 Views
Thought on this darius_sedai - 13/06/2010 01:09:29 PM 904 Views
yet 4 women can still hold Rand in LoC ... he can't break the Shield until it's down to 3 darius_sedai - 13/06/2010 12:47:43 PM 787 Views
Have to agree with Sidious on this point darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 02:49:58 AM 887 Views
That was kind of my point... fionwe1987 - 11/06/2010 12:19:23 PM 615 Views
of course Katerine would have complained darius_sedai - 12/06/2010 12:53:31 PM 1008 Views
The rate forkroot wears off? Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/06/2010 12:36:38 PM 965 Views
You missed that she isn't being given Forkroot at night at all! fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 04:47:59 PM 903 Views
Typos, screwed up what I meant Rurouni_Kenshin - 17/06/2010 02:31:50 AM 913 Views
You are... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:32:47 AM 1132 Views
Maria's other answer adresses this... Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:14:54 PM 787 Views
Then one Aes Sedai cannot shield her. But one did. fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:16:41 PM 910 Views
You can be much weaker than someone, and hold them shielded, if they are already cut off... Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:19:15 PM 886 Views
But, if you are much stronger, you can break that shield... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:22:25 PM 902 Views
Easy... Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:24:59 PM 865 Views
What has that got to do with it? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:32:56 PM 1053 Views
Amys is not LESS than half of Egwene's strength. You cannot hold someone if you are LESS than half.. Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:47:41 PM 966 Views
Amys is as strong as Moiraine, at the most one level lower. Barasine is weaker than Katarine, who... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:00:26 PM 1097 Views
I can agree with that. Shannow - 10/06/2010 09:09:07 PM 853 Views
How can you agree with it? Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:13:55 PM 1054 Views
I'm thinking Berowin here... Shannow - 10/06/2010 09:16:41 PM 1058 Views
Exactly. fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:18:19 PM 915 Views
... Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:12:21 PM 838 Views
Agreed, but... Shannow - 10/06/2010 09:13:59 PM 1009 Views
Re: Agreed, but... Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:16:30 PM 809 Views
Good point... Shannow - 10/06/2010 09:18:53 PM 1020 Views
Or, you know, you're wrong? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:27:55 PM 889 Views
Re: Good point... Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:28:02 PM 1092 Views
We've had this discussion before darius_sedai - 13/06/2010 01:59:34 PM 989 Views
Or, you know, you can have the grace to question your antiquated strength list... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:22:51 PM 884 Views
The Bell Curve fits perfectly if one simple fact is true... Shannow - 10/06/2010 09:31:31 PM 840 Views
Or, you know, you can stop misinterpreting Aviendha... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:40:05 PM 964 Views
I'd be perfectly happy to adjust my list if it made sense Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:32:35 PM 830 Views
Uhhh? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:41:59 PM 827 Views
Re: Uhhh? Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:48:58 PM 830 Views
DUDE! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:58:59 PM 862 Views
Re: DUDE! Sidious - 10/06/2010 10:09:11 PM 818 Views
I explained... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 10:27:44 PM 842 Views
Re: I explained... Sidious - 10/06/2010 10:45:58 PM 972 Views
Rand seems to shield Egwene and Elayne TOGETHER, pretty easily... Shannow - 10/06/2010 09:54:03 PM 1437 Views
That's fairly simple, actually... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 10:08:53 PM 1081 Views
Nope. Rand was also cut off from the Source when he broke a shield held by 3 Aes Sedai... Shannow - 10/06/2010 11:18:41 PM 1033 Views
Because that channeler is much stronger? I'm not getting your confusion here. *NM* fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 11:27:31 PM 500 Views
Your Aes Sedai are close to the average woman in strength, right... Shannow - 10/06/2010 11:42:01 PM 1098 Views
You are making a couple of mistakes darius_sedai - 13/06/2010 02:28:41 PM 955 Views
You're missing an important point... fionwe1987 - 14/06/2010 11:10:55 PM 943 Views
Yes, what do you mean? You are actually proving our point... Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:10:50 PM 815 Views
No, here's the quote: I hate having to pull out my books with their yellowed pages... Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:01:54 PM 875 Views
Why would she need surprise against two? That was against five of them... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:04:57 PM 893 Views
That makes no sense whatsoever... Shannow - 10/06/2010 08:06:53 PM 859 Views
Simply this... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:13:42 PM 877 Views
Very poor evidence Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:11:26 PM 1010 Views
No it isn't... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:18:09 PM 958 Views
Re: No it isn't... Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:32:17 PM 1032 Views
no she said Egwene is stronger than Amys and Melaine combined darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 12:46:29 AM 957 Views
The actual quote says Amys and Melaine combined... Shannow - 11/06/2010 12:25:07 PM 1005 Views
Here's the problem with that... fionwe1987 - 11/06/2010 12:42:41 PM 861 Views
Linked circles are more effective than individual channelers... Shannow - 11/06/2010 01:57:43 PM 962 Views
That much stronger? fionwe1987 - 14/06/2010 11:06:18 PM 1021 Views
On this we agree. darius_sedai - 13/06/2010 02:34:45 PM 842 Views
I think you are misreading her. Skeeve the Great - 10/06/2010 07:47:06 PM 825 Views
Bingo *NM* Sidious - 10/06/2010 07:51:29 PM 587 Views
Please explain what you mean by "channeler" and "power" distribution. *NM* Logain - 10/06/2010 09:23:36 PM 537 Views
Re: Please explain what you mean by "channeler" and "power" distribution. Skeeve the Great - 10/06/2010 10:11:23 PM 1054 Views
Yes. You can't extrapolate a generalized macro level scale to micro level individuals. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 12:16:24 AM 894 Views
I don't agree Sidious - 10/06/2010 07:49:41 PM 878 Views
BAH! Its infuriating how you have so many blinders... Eerily Aes Sedai of you. fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:54:23 PM 1025 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 10/06/2010 07:55:59 PM 799 Views
Because of the question to which she responded... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:57:55 PM 828 Views
Re: Because of the question to which she responded... Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:06:16 PM 969 Views
Without contradicting the latter... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:15:11 PM 861 Views
Ah well Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:20:32 PM 840 Views
Which is even more evidence... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:23:28 PM 937 Views
Dude Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:30:57 PM 1048 Views
It isn't omission fionwe1987 - 14/06/2010 10:54:47 PM 1015 Views
omg not this again *NM* BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 07:52:26 PM 975 Views
Great! Two of my OP strength ideas have been solidified! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:39:53 PM 1087 Views
Nope... Shannow - 10/06/2010 07:46:31 PM 943 Views
Who said Cadsuane was 50? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:51:14 PM 978 Views
So how can Egwene be twice as strong as Moiraine, if Moiraine is at 55? Shannow - 10/06/2010 07:53:11 PM 839 Views
She cannot be because she isn't. Silviana can shield Egwene alone, for God's sake. So can Amys! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 07:56:26 PM 786 Views
Amys can't hold her properly Sidious - 10/06/2010 07:59:47 PM 819 Views
What about later that night? fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 08:02:16 PM 824 Views
No she didn't darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 03:02:21 PM 936 Views
No she didn't what? fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 04:46:05 PM 991 Views
Re: No she didn't what? darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 06:16:16 AM 829 Views
Re: No she didn't what? fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 06:02:57 PM 982 Views
you are arguing in a circle darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 06:31:19 PM 1305 Views
Why do you think it's a linear scale? Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/06/2010 05:25:56 AM 951 Views
That's simple... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 904 Views
Re: That's simple... Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/06/2010 12:27:07 PM 858 Views
Your concept is not mathematically right. So yeah, forget discussing it. fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 04:41:13 PM 1043 Views
Dang, Cyndane isn't using Cabriana's body. Gher - 10/06/2010 08:25:20 PM 897 Views
But they didn't look alike anyway. *NM* Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:59:35 PM 585 Views
Eh, yeah. Gher - 12/06/2010 08:24:10 PM 834 Views
The blue flash RAFO irritates me- I can't see how that will be relevant. The Min thing was new beetnemesis - 10/06/2010 08:50:52 PM 1024 Views
RJ already RAFOed the incident with Thom's knives/daggers before Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:57:52 PM 1109 Views
They RAFO way too much. Tom - 11/06/2010 12:25:56 AM 826 Views
It isn't, unless she's implying the Creator helped him out or some other such thing RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 12:56:49 AM 858 Views
Just to make things clear on the strength thing... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:08:02 PM 1135 Views
It is possible Maria was answering the first question and ignoring the second... Logain - 10/06/2010 09:29:59 PM 862 Views
That still proves my point... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 09:33:10 PM 1034 Views
Re: That still proves my point... Sidious - 10/06/2010 09:45:39 PM 892 Views
Then why... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 10:00:00 PM 991 Views
Re: Then why... Sidious - 10/06/2010 10:07:56 PM 861 Views
God, what stupidity! fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 10:10:32 PM 852 Views
Re: God, what stupidity! Sidious - 10/06/2010 10:16:38 PM 952 Views
It doesn't have to be 1-100. fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 10:32:17 PM 902 Views
Re: It doesn't have to be 1-100. Sidious - 10/06/2010 10:41:02 PM 1177 Views
That's a mathematical impossibility... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 11:26:23 PM 1020 Views
Just popping in. I think you're arguing over non-existent delineations. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 12:44:40 AM 943 Views
You're pretty much agreeing with me, you know? fionwe1987 - 11/06/2010 12:32:44 PM 909 Views
Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/06/2010 10:31:00 PM 1026 Views
Re: Just to make things clear on the strength thing... Bored - 14/06/2010 11:21:31 PM 1235 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 14/06/2010 11:48:43 PM 828 Views
Also interesting... Etzel - 10/06/2010 09:38:27 PM 974 Views
I'm even more confused (parallel worlds and the Pattern) entyti - 10/06/2010 09:48:17 PM 944 Views
Nah,... DomA - 11/06/2010 11:38:20 AM 934 Views
Fascinating! entyti - 13/06/2010 02:30:42 AM 984 Views
You know, these things always end up pissing me off. Tom - 11/06/2010 12:25:05 AM 930 Views
I think she's saving that info for her WoT Encyclopedia. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 12:54:38 AM 996 Views
Re: You know, these things always end up pissing me off. TaskmasterJack - 11/06/2010 03:22:53 AM 1040 Views
Re: You know, these things always end up pissing me off. DomA - 11/06/2010 12:29:37 PM 970 Views
I agree Etzel - 11/06/2010 01:14:36 PM 1080 Views
Re: I agree TaskmasterJack - 12/06/2010 03:02:32 PM 863 Views
BS didn't answer with "Read and find out" Etzel - 12/06/2010 03:28:05 PM 905 Views
We were speaking about Maria giving a RAFO on the topic, not Sanderson. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 13/06/2010 12:05:17 AM 515 Views
Actually she said "No"... *NM* Etzel - 13/06/2010 01:06:18 AM 610 Views
I'll rephrase then. It was about Maria saying that she considered giving a RAFO on the question. TaskmasterJack - 13/06/2010 01:44:19 AM 908 Views
Yeah, sorry for the rolly-eyed smiley! Was a bit mean... Etzel - 13/06/2010 09:19:13 AM 916 Views
I agree with Jack and Sidious and not with you. Tom - 11/06/2010 03:20:30 PM 1005 Views
Well, on the Thom question... Etzel - 11/06/2010 08:25:09 AM 891 Views
Yeah Sidious - 11/06/2010 08:26:33 AM 994 Views
Re: Yeah darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 12:25:21 AM 852 Views
Eh, practically useless. callandor1000 - 14/06/2010 11:50:06 PM 851 Views
I agree. I think she is saving the good stuff for the encyclopedia. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/06/2010 04:17:07 PM 481 Views
Yeah. I do think she's taking advantage of these poor saps, though. callandor1000 - 17/06/2010 03:52:33 PM 1436 Views
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