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About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM
Let us remember that you need to be much stronger than someone to be absolutely certain you can shield them. Someone as strong as you, or even slightly weaker, can shield you. Only, the shield wouldn't fall into place 100% of the time.
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No three women could block him from the Source... Logain - 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM 2143 Views
I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM 1228 Views
I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him Sidious - 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM 1291 Views
Ahhh... I can kind of agree with that... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:05:46 PM 1360 Views
Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist... Logain - 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM 1370 Views
Agreed. Good analysis. Shannow - 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM 1297 Views
Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM 1233 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 1342 Views
Re: Huh? randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM 1167 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM 1237 Views
Re: Code_Man65 - 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM 1070 Views
No, this is before. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 1142 Views
Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM 1151 Views
I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM 1029 Views
Simple answer to settle it: Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM 1048 Views
So Talaan is God? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM 1227 Views
It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM 1143 Views
Skill has nothing to do with how strong a person is. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:11:13 PM 1118 Views
So? Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM 1110 Views
Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM 1114 Views
Oh My God! That's such utter tripe... EDIT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:30:29 PM 1165 Views
That's exactly how I understood you. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:30:42 PM 1034 Views
You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right? Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM 1136 Views
It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM 1053 Views
Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM 1102 Views
Lanfear can do it alone Sidious - 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM 1096 Views
She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet... Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM 1050 Views
Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM 1099 Views
She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM 1105 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM 1098 Views
I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM 1033 Views
Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM 2008 Views
It becomes a battle of skill then... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM 1194 Views
BUT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:12:47 PM 1112 Views
Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM 1073 Views
Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM 1050 Views
No. There's a difference. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:07:09 PM 1232 Views
Oh come on... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM 1239 Views
I know you are not that ignorant... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM 1039 Views
But that isn't true... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM 1066 Views
Let me spell it out for you... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM 1091 Views
Re: Let me spell it out for you... Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM 1084 Views
Don't put words in my, or Lews Therin's, mouth... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:33:50 PM 1215 Views
??? darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 10:43:28 PM 1236 Views
+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM 1074 Views
Now that's a ridiculous comparison Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM 1196 Views
Exactly! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:28:20 PM 1205 Views
Touchy point, heh? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM 1139 Views
Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM 1203 Views
Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM 1160 Views
If you wish... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM 925 Views
Re: If you wish... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM 929 Views
Whyever not? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM 1008 Views
Re: Whyever not? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM 893 Views
Even in that situation fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM 1178 Views
Re: Even in that situation Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM 1165 Views
Okay... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM 1105 Views
Re: Okay... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM 1078 Views
So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM 621 Views
What? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM 1036 Views
If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM 528 Views
Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM 954 Views
Okay, here's what I think you're saying... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM 1134 Views
Re: Okay, here's what I think you're saying... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 11:10:57 PM 1089 Views
Sorry for the mixup... BUT... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 12:28:31 AM 1135 Views
Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM 1031 Views
I cannot believe you're so obtuse... or then again, I can. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:26:04 PM 1160 Views
About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM 929 Views
It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM 462 Views
Re: No three women could block him from the Source... Underwood - 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM 1010 Views
+1 Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 05:54:51 PM 1082 Views
darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 08:48:39 PM 1323 Views
Re: Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 08:56:31 PM 959 Views
indeed you have darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 09:34:22 PM 1192 Views
Bad analogy... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:23:31 AM 992 Views
Uh... Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:08:01 AM 1027 Views
I disagree. LordPerrin - 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM 1167 Views
That's wrong. Rand said 2 AS + Moghedien could threaten him Logain - 16/06/2010 05:17:33 PM 1149 Views
Huh. I forgot about that. LordPerrin - 17/06/2010 04:29:38 PM 1220 Views
go back a few posts... Kieran - 17/06/2010 03:41:42 AM 1065 Views
yet Nynaeve and Talaan can shield one another darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:57:09 AM 1071 Views
I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM 990 Views
Agreed darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM 892 Views
I don't think there's any theme Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:25:52 PM 1211 Views
I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM 1090 Views
They have a separate trinity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/06/2010 06:51:27 PM 1083 Views
They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength Logain - 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM 1060 Views
They would be far more than 3 average AS darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM 1074 Views
No, that's not right either. Lews Therin Telamon - 18/06/2010 12:37:37 AM 1118 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:07:10 AM 1203 Views
Another related quote Skeeve the Great - 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM 1052 Views
well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM 1114 Views
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