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Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart Send a noteboard - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM
Forsaken hierarchy was determined by killing those above you. To become important, you had to kill those, and avoid being killed by those beneath you.


I saw this at the time, and never realised it was a reply to what i had written, i'm a bit rusty on the series, where in books is this selection process contained.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3133 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1628 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1540 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 707 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1337 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1252 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 591 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1346 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1310 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1246 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1211 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1297 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1144 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1113 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 638 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1127 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1122 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1081 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1233 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1299 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1153 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1208 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 568 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1214 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1099 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1190 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1101 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1161 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1070 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1221 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1202 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1367 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 638 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1291 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 685 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1167 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1163 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1230 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1166 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1154 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1120 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1185 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1143 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1188 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1099 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1215 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1058 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1079 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1180 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1098 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1074 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1051 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1137 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 938 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1213 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 627 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1183 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1261 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1095 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 626 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1277 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 721 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1313 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1100 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1114 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1122 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1013 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1057 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1091 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1202 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1232 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1152 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1145 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1166 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1171 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1221 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1047 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1107 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1085 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1115 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8465 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1098 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1178 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1422 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1029 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1186 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1188 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1122 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1444 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1132 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 969 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1253 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1104 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1318 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1148 Views
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