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Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Sidious Send a noteboard - 13/07/2010 08:41:54 PM
We've seen Mesaana, Ishamael, Demandred and Semirhage trot out tons of intricate, overly complicated plans and three out of the four people on that list are still alive.

There is nothing complicated about Graendals' "plan" - some posters have suggested overly complicated ways to go about it, but I tend to stick with the most simple means of execution for a position she's repeatedly stated throughout the series - she arranged things to be able to pack up and leave as soon as Rand or any of his entourage found her and did so. Nothing that complicated, really: essentially, her plan was not to be there when he decided to attack. It just so happens that the method he chose does not appear to be the best method to use against someone who had contingency plans involving a hasty escape.


I think she's dead, but I do think that if she avoided death then this would be a rather basic way of doing so.

Sending one of the Black Ajah to take the fall is hardly the stuff of legendary thinking.
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What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 13/07/2010 09:00:05 AM 2276 Views
Too convulted to make any sense... - 13/07/2010 09:22:26 AM 1211 Views
Too convulted...... - 14/07/2010 07:26:26 PM 1459 Views
The logic is rather... - 15/07/2010 05:09:30 PM 1123 Views
What is the reason Delana is with Graendal? - 13/07/2010 09:31:36 AM 1296 Views
Indeed... - 13/07/2010 10:06:32 AM 1197 Views
Re: Indeed... - 13/07/2010 10:10:43 AM 1270 Views
That is wrong - 13/07/2010 10:19:32 AM 1107 Views
Re: That is wrong - 13/07/2010 10:29:16 AM 1200 Views
It's not at all... - 13/07/2010 10:35:49 AM 1073 Views
Plus... - 13/07/2010 12:18:12 PM 1012 Views
I agree with part and disagree with part. - 14/07/2010 06:39:36 PM 1098 Views
exactly - 14/07/2010 06:43:14 PM 1096 Views
Does the Compulsion fit Graendal? - 13/07/2010 03:40:36 PM 1145 Views
sorry but no - 13/07/2010 09:49:13 AM 1220 Views
Exactly - 13/07/2010 10:14:06 AM 1062 Views
Yeah dacole provided powerful evidence *NM* - 13/07/2010 10:25:13 AM 589 Views
Actually... - 13/07/2010 10:30:24 AM 1105 Views
Or, as with Moghedien. - 13/07/2010 02:35:44 PM 1259 Views
It makes perfect sense. - 13/07/2010 02:33:09 PM 1127 Views
This is actually the first thing that I thought of in that scene *NM* - 13/07/2010 04:08:48 PM 737 Views
Yes, Graendal completely outsmarted Rand. - 13/07/2010 05:56:30 PM 1213 Views
I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. - 13/07/2010 06:33:44 PM 1197 Views
Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them - 13/07/2010 08:41:54 PM 1116 Views
Re: Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them - 13/07/2010 09:09:09 PM 1170 Views
You draw too much attention to yourself, Mr Underwood *NM* - 14/07/2010 05:13:42 AM 685 Views
Ha, nice! *NM* - 14/07/2010 04:05:00 PM 577 Views
What are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, it's absurdly simple. - 13/07/2010 09:27:22 PM 1173 Views
Huh - 14/07/2010 05:22:51 AM 1161 Views
Why did the lair explode? - 14/07/2010 06:17:32 AM 1127 Views
*NM* - 14/07/2010 01:58:17 PM 747 Views
While I generally agree with you...you missed an important detail. - 14/07/2010 02:06:31 PM 1301 Views
What did Rand tell Ramshalan... - 14/07/2010 04:29:04 PM 1011 Views
Re: What did Rand tell Ramshalan... - 14/07/2010 04:52:11 PM 1104 Views
... - 14/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1279 Views
he doesn't have to read Rands mind - 14/07/2010 09:41:59 PM 1037 Views
Provide a quote. - 15/07/2010 04:10:06 AM 1171 Views
read the chapter - 10/08/2010 09:22:02 PM 1009 Views
Right, that's why I asked. Because I know you can't. - 10/08/2010 10:00:14 PM 1157 Views
sigh ... always so aggressive ... why you gotta hate - 11/08/2010 03:23:31 AM 1232 Views
Was that what I asked for? - 11/08/2010 04:05:41 AM 986 Views
sorry misunderstood what you were looking for - 11/08/2010 04:50:17 PM 1014 Views
Oh if that's what you want - 11/08/2010 04:45:19 PM 1142 Views
Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. - 11/08/2010 06:57:39 PM 1057 Views
why does it have to be a well thought out plan? - 14/07/2010 04:14:17 PM 1035 Views
She would have to teach her pawn Compulsion. - 14/07/2010 04:30:12 PM 1043 Views
No she'd only have to show Delana a weave to duplicate - 14/07/2010 04:48:24 PM 1089 Views
Nonsense. - 14/07/2010 09:30:01 PM 1149 Views
yet Sorilea, can duplicate Cadsuane's weaves after one quick glance - 14/07/2010 09:52:01 PM 1146 Views
Which ones? - 15/07/2010 04:14:23 AM 1029 Views
Re: Which ones? - 15/07/2010 05:25:28 AM 1132 Views
Well. - 15/07/2010 06:53:29 AM 1011 Views
Actually I think it's one of those things that make AS so stupid - 10/08/2010 09:36:43 PM 1096 Views
the Sorilea moment is when they first meet Semirhage - 10/08/2010 09:32:26 PM 1186 Views
Thanks for the quote. - 10/08/2010 10:02:36 PM 1232 Views
Re: I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. - 14/07/2010 05:40:11 PM 1038 Views
She's so smart, she knows Rand will bring along Nynaeve to check Delana's Compulsion - 13/07/2010 08:32:19 PM 1018 Views
we've seen any number of times that a Channeler can make an exact copy of weaves - 14/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 1151 Views
Ramshalan didn't know the plan as you claim - 14/07/2010 04:16:29 PM 945 Views
he knew enough to alert Graendal to the danger - 14/07/2010 04:50:26 PM 1196 Views
No. Don't think so. - 13/07/2010 08:35:34 PM 1013 Views
I so desperately want you to be right. - 14/07/2010 06:30:16 AM 1180 Views
Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 14/07/2010 06:53:48 AM 1105 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 14/07/2010 07:10:49 AM 1171 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 15/07/2010 10:50:05 PM 1107 Views
Yip - 14/07/2010 04:33:03 PM 1070 Views
Lame. - 14/07/2010 10:44:47 AM 1005 Views
Not really - 14/07/2010 04:15:38 PM 964 Views
she's dead, get over it *NM* - 14/07/2010 01:12:15 PM 641 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 14/07/2010 05:44:38 PM 1014 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 14/07/2010 07:21:29 PM 1108 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 10/08/2010 09:12:17 PM 1203 Views
Sounds about right. Wonder if he intends to try and get Callandor? *NM* - 13/08/2010 07:41:47 AM 414 Views
*shrug* Seems a bit complex to me... - 14/07/2010 07:17:49 PM 1411 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 15/07/2010 04:38:09 PM 1123 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 10/11/2010 04:09:41 AM 1006 Views
Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* - 10/11/2010 04:41:11 AM 981 Views
Because he was right, that's why. - 11/11/2010 03:39:39 AM 976 Views
Not by my reckoning. *Still contains ToM spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:22:59 AM 962 Views
No one ever gets every detail right - it's impossible - 11/11/2010 06:06:26 AM 1227 Views
Yes, but I don't think this was a detail. *Still ToM spoilers.* - 11/11/2010 06:31:40 AM 1124 Views
Re: Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:12:38 AM 1106 Views
Please try to maintain some decorum. *Also ToM spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:45:08 AM 1043 Views

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