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Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM
I disagree since she was killed by rand she is directly part of his plotline. Now how exactly can we have a revel of her as the killer when it HAS BEEN SAID that the KILLER will be revealing it themself. When she is dead and we know she won't be getting a flashback. Moraine killed him (slayer is ridiculous sorry eztal).

I would love for you to give more detail on how the scenes you imagine would play out.


Such a scene would precisely be a flashback in Rand's plot-/ timeline, especially if we would get the PoV from Graendal just before Rand's balefire hit her palace. It's clear from his answers, that BS won't jump back in Rand's plotline.


a better candidate as Asmodean's killer. Which it does not. There are plenty of ways to reveal Graendal as the culprit even if she is dead AND there are NO flashbacks.

There are dozens of ways to incorporate a Graendal scene from another POV that is NOT in Rand's plot line. Aran'gar could be near Elayne, Mat or Perrin and have such a flashback. Mesaana could have a chat with Demandred. Moridin could inform Cyndane and/or Moghedien of Graendal's death (or escape if that's how it plays out), there could even be another Social prior to Rand Balefiring NB.

Just because BSand said there won't be as much flashback as book 10 doesn't mean Graendal won't appear, you can't even claim she's even part of Rand's plot line! For most of the series she's not been involved directly in any of the main cast's plot lines.

He's been vague on her death since the beginning and has even alluded to her possibly being alive, which could mean she has a live appearance after the events at NB.


with her. There is nothing to indicate that she won't have a scene involving Graendal in the next book.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Chat with Brandon posted on Dragonmount Skeeve the Great - 12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM 2197 Views
This... Etzel - 12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM 1324 Views
how do you get there from this? darius_sedai - 12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM 1168 Views
Right. There could easily be a scene like this: beetnemesis - 12/07/2010 06:22:45 PM 1101 Views
Because... Etzel - 12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM 1146 Views
You're brilliant, Etzel, but Brandon is NOT robert jordan newyorkersedai - 13/07/2010 01:18:44 AM 1080 Views
He said it won't be 100% flashback like book 10 Rurouni_Kenshin - 13/07/2010 05:30:18 AM 999 Views
But obviously not for the timelines, which are up to date. Etzel - 13/07/2010 08:41:37 AM 1100 Views
the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM 1071 Views
Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer dacole - 14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM 1046 Views
Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM 1075 Views
No... Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM 983 Views
so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM 941 Views
Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM* Etzel - 14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM 910 Views
sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM 1114 Views
Again... Etzel - 15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM 869 Views
or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM 1025 Views
The point is... Etzel - 15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM 979 Views
that is 100% your interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM 1027 Views
Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation. Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM 941 Views
I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM 937 Views
As far as we know... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM 1019 Views
she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM 1146 Views
There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM 893 Views
She doesn't have to be in order to make an appearance in them darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:26:44 PM 1003 Views
We will see... *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:36:21 PM 1207 Views
Indeed Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM 916 Views
The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM 1117 Views
give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong dacole - 13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM 1004 Views
I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM 1195 Views
Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM 1050 Views
It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM 1116 Views
you keep trotting this point out like it matters darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM 996 Views
a very irritating habit indeed!! Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM 1101 Views
There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos! Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM 937 Views
where do you get this stuff from? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM 1134 Views
Eh, no Etzel - 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM 1010 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM 990 Views
Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM 1095 Views
pure interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM 998 Views
Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM 1082 Views
No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM* darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM 449 Views
Aran'gar just had the luck that Rand wasn't after her Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:34:53 PM 825 Views
Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM 956 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Etzel - 15/07/2010 10:08:44 PM 981 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM 939 Views
IMO... Etzel - 16/07/2010 08:46:03 AM 908 Views
And... Etzel - 16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM 1019 Views
you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM 1024 Views
Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM 1078 Views
not really darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:58:57 PM 1161 Views
Good, then we agree, if you consider it unlikely as well. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:56:50 PM 1148 Views
Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said). *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM 991 Views
You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM 1027 Views
Ok... Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:17:02 PM 906 Views
When did I say there would be a Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:03:54 PM 979 Views
I also just said that... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:10:32 PM 880 Views
Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM 939 Views
But we never... Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:17:30 AM 1002 Views
Re: But we never... Datakim - 15/07/2010 10:52:24 PM 948 Views
I think Etzel - 16/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 1048 Views
Re: I think Datakim - 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM 1045 Views
Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM 962 Views
Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true. Logain - 16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM 1112 Views
I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM 1060 Views
Because some people can't read... DomA - 14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM 1125 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:14:27 PM 870 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM 893 Views
Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM 1101 Views
I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM* RandAllThor - 12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM 1021 Views
Yeah, seems so. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:19:53 PM 983 Views
Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base Logain - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 1180 Views
hrmm, not necessarily Kieran - 12/07/2010 09:28:00 PM 946 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:24:21 PM 476 Views
Uh... TaskmasterJack - 12/07/2010 10:10:08 PM 1063 Views
or "can't" because ... Shishka - 12/07/2010 10:34:14 PM 926 Views
Re: or "can't" because ... TaskmasterJack - 13/07/2010 01:00:45 AM 949 Views
I think he isn't allowed to... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:23:55 PM 1074 Views
On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous! RandAllThor - 13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM 929 Views
Perrin catch-up? Comet Sedai - 13/07/2010 02:55:22 AM 868 Views
We will get it on screen Deadsy - 13/07/2010 03:30:33 AM 941 Views
On Mat's "death" Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM 1177 Views
Re: On Mat's "death" Datakim - 13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM 902 Views
This report was probably a misinterpretation Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:23:24 AM 1021 Views
Re: This report was probably a misinterpretation Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:03:36 PM 1028 Views
I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A! Mats imaginary friend - 14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM 955 Views
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