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Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM
The sa'angreal was a necessary tool to achieve this, but it was not the critical component.


Umm? What?

How could Rand have cleansed Saidin without the CK? Even with the combined power of both CK statues it took hours upon hours for Rand to finish.

How long would it have taken had he tried to do it without the CK, pulling saidin with only his own natural strength. Months? Years? Decades? And that is assuming it would even have worked. We have no idea what would have happened had Rand stopped to rest in between. For all we know SL would have exploded instantly, despite the fact that only a tiny amount of taint would have been channeled into it.

I would say that without CK, the cleansing could not have happened.
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death RabidWombat - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1874 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed Etzel - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 1081 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* Kieran - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 381 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 370 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 1005 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM 1000 Views
It's an interesting theory in either direction darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 931 Views
Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM 777 Views
BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM 809 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." DomA - 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM 859 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Datakim - 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM 842 Views
You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. redhand - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 877 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 815 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 816 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:30:11 AM 775 Views
^^^what Datakim said^^^ darius_sedai - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 806 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books RabidWombat - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 896 Views
You were right the first time DomA - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 934 Views
I think the question is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 846 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM 846 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM 851 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM 828 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM 892 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 05:08:59 AM 895 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 05:59:37 PM 850 Views
I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 905 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 822 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Datakim - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 800 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 887 Views
But if this was the plan... Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 807 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 944 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 801 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 759 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 770 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 354 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 752 Views
Are you certain? Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 785 Views
Re: Are you certain? Sidious - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 850 Views
Re: Are you certain? Datakim - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 798 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* Japhy - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 335 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 752 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 812 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 798 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 843 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 790 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 795 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 883 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 858 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 746 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 815 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 807 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? Sidious - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 834 Views
If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM 823 Views
Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"? Mik - 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM 796 Views
It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM 783 Views
Not if Moridin sensed it, instead of seeing it. Mik - 27/07/2010 08:12:25 PM 778 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key DomA - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 753 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 764 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 807 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 824 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series Sidious - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 825 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series HyogaRott - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 755 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. TaskmasterJack - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 701 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability DomA - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 1119 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 361 Views
That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM* Mik - 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM 362 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 780 Views
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