Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
Datakim Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM
A distinct possible consequence, now that Rand has destroyed the CK, is that the amount of saidin he could get from the CK helped him keep the desire to use the TP again at bay. Now, if Rand finds himself in a dark spot or a position of weakness, he might struggle a lot more resisting the temptation to embrace the TP (which gave him a feeling of utter power similar to a far greater amount of saiding that Rand can embrace unaided... the sort of feeling he could reproduce by drawing on the CK and now could only be embracing the TP). Demandred (or Moghedien) experienced something similar - they used the TP only when it was their last chance/last hope (it's not totally unlike how Nynaeve broke her block, except in her despair/darkness she gave up, and this surrender was what she needed. Previously, she could embrace saidar only when she was so blinded by anger she forgot she was surrendering to saidar).
I suspect that BS has already answered that question

Q: You mention that Shaidar Haran has quite a few limitations on his power. Can you give us a few concrete examples of these limitations?
A: Shaidar Haran needs a minion to do most of his work for him. Elza was essential to Shaidar Haran in getting things done.
This lead to lots of discussion about swearing to the Shadow – basically, it’s a very bad idea and you forfeit some very basic protections when you do. Shaidar Haran has special power over those that swear to the Dark One, and the Forsaken in particular. I asked about Alviarin’s special mark, and he said Shaidar Haran has similar power over her. The implication is that there are lots of ramifications for swearing to the Dark One. Brandon mentioned that this makes Verin all the more remarkable.
If simply swearing to the DO loses you these "basic protections", then what would actually channeling the very essence of the DO do?
I think by using TP, Rand has lost all of these inherent protections and is now vulnerable to the shadow, including the ability of SH to completely block him from the OP.
foreshadowing of Semirhage's death
- 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM
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I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed
- 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM
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I disagree about the TP aspect
- 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM
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Re: I disagree about the TP aspect
- 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM
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It's an interesting theory in either direction
- 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM
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Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction
- 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM
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BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM
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Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM
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Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM
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Re: I disagree about the TP aspect
- 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM
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I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books
- 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM
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You were right the first time
- 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM
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I think the question is...
- 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM
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- 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM
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I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage
- 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM
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I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key
- 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM
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Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it
- 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM
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Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM
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That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth.
- 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM
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Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth.
- 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM
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I fail to see the relevance. *NM*
- 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM
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the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK
- 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM
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Are you certain?
- 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM
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??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern
- 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM
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So why not give it to Moridin then?
- 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM
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If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed
- 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM
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Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"?
- 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM
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It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam
- 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM
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This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others.
- 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM
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Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there.
- 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM
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Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series
- 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM
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Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series
- 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM
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You confuse foreshadowing and predictability
- 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM
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That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM*
- 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM
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I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot.
- 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM
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